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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #63 on: Sunday 28 October 12 03:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patsy

No,  John MASON wasn't on the "LONDON" (1841) passenger list (that I could see)  ... and yes, I think probably left behind in England (which seems perhaps a little odd - but of course they did things like that in those days)  ?   [Have often been tempted to leave my own kids behind in foreign countries !  :D ]

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #64 on: Sunday 28 October 12 03:02 GMT (UK) »
ok answered my own question John not on the list so you may be correct we on the right track with William which is why he sponsored John's passage do you think?
How come though that marriage of John and Mary says John's father is also named John?????? drat!!
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #65 on: Sunday 28 October 12 03:10 GMT (UK) »
Frustrating isnt it??? just got your last one twice so things are looking up  ;D
My thoughts exactly when I saw John son of William born 1831 !!  But there is another family with son John Mason born 1831 in Darley only 10 miles from Alfreton and one at Barrow on Trent only nine miles from Sandiacre soooooooooooo a couple to choose from.


Hi Patsy

I'd ruled the Darley-born one out when I looked the other day - (for the reason I think, that he was still in UK after 1861 ?)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #66 on: Sunday 28 October 12 03:13 GMT (UK) »
?
How come though that marriage of John and Mary says John's father is also named John?????? drat!!


Duh ... must have missed something ??  ;D    Where did you find the John / Mary marriage info ??

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #67 on: Sunday 28 October 12 03:24 GMT (UK) »
I used the Family search online and up it popped.
John Mason

England, Marriages, 1538–1973
   
birth:   1831   
marriage:   29 Nov 1852   Alfreton,​Derby,​England
   
parents:   John Mason
spouse:   Mary Ann Marshall
   
groom's name:   John Mason
groom's birth date:   1831
groom's age:   21
bride's name:   Mary Ann Marshall
bride's birth date:   1832
bride's age:   20
marriage date:   29 Nov 1852
marriage place:   Alfreton,Derby,England
groom's father's name:   John Mason
bride's father's name:   William Marshall
indexing project (batch) number:   M04627-3
system origin:   England-ODM
source film number:   1041620

I use the Archer software search and is great you can zero in on each parish from the start. wonderful stuff
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #68 on: Sunday 28 October 12 03:44 GMT (UK) »
Cool  ... cheers.   ;)

It might have stacked up if the father's forenames had been swapped around ... eh ?  :D  [Have to trust that the indexers got them in the correct order ?  ;) ]

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #69 on: Sunday 28 October 12 03:57 GMT (UK) »
I see the "KINNAIRD" (1859) passenger list transcript was taken from info published in the "Wellington Independent - 9 February 1859.

Of the passengers in steerage (another item states) ..." the majority of them have arrived to join their friends under the Provincial Government Regulations".

I'm hopeful then that I can track down at Archives the Promissiory Note records or the Cash Book, pertaining to to this voyage.   I see too (Petone d/base) that "John MASON - Location: Molesworth Street" has a note alongside of his name regarding "correspondence concerning the repayment of passage money   ... 19/09/1863".  Will try to find that too.
     


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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 28 October 12 04:06 GMT (UK) »
I actually did think of that and may have to get a copy of the marriage to satisfy myself if nothing else eventuates.   It would be great if you could scare up that promissory note stuff at Archives Luc most appreciated.  May William's Will could also hold something that puts everything in context fingers crossed.  cheers again
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #71 on: Sunday 28 October 12 04:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patsy

{Mmm ... just had a thought about the (1866) Will of William MASON - if the lister who has the copy of this, only mentions Wm. Frederick as being a son, then possibly he is the only child named in it ?   ;)}

Will check it out though ... and the other records I previously offered to look up.
Hopefully will get it done by week's end.

   ~  Lu