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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Luc, I found a facebook site for William Mason and discover that yes he is from Landiacre in Derbyshire now I cant find Landiacre??? cant seem to get any info apart from one or two mentions I have tried GENUKI and nothing on there either I want to know how far it is from Alfreton. going to try google earth next  :D
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:14 GMT (UK) »
Hello Patsy,

Could it be Sandiacre?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandiacre


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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:15 GMT (UK) »
Ok, there IS a place also called SANDIACRE so maybe thats where he was from it is only 12 miles from Alfreton where John and Mary Ann married so ??? perhaps - I guess I need to find a common family member
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HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patsy

[Drat ... having some trouble at the mo, getting my "posts" to post.  GRRR !
Just lost a whole lot of info so will have to try it again. ]

Yep, it is indeed "Sandiacre" - Derbyshire.

And I'd earlier found a census return 1841 for William MASON - mechanic, wife Lucy (Lucy Ann), daughter Lucy, (Lucy Ann) aged 15 / son William (13) ... and John MASON aged 10 years (presumably another son ?) ... and born c. 1831 !!

Resident at Sandiacre, Derbyshire.
[Might have to "eat my hat" re: the earlier Derbyshire marriage of a John and Mary Ann - 1851  ... although it is the only MASON / MARSHALL marriage which stacks up.]

   ~  Lu


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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patsy

Think we're on the right track now with William MASON (Blacksmith).   ;D

Incidentally, there's a 2004 message (in that other forum - r/web) re: a Lydia Ann MASON.
States that William MASON (the blacksmith) was born Warwickshire, though the MASON family were ex Nottinghamshire.   That lister also has a copy of William MASON's (1866) Will (probate record) if you'd like to try contacting her.  [Otherwise I'll look it up at Archives. ]

Interestingly, she mentions too that William Frederick MASON was the only child of William MASON and Lucy Ann HUNTER (although the family (2 William's // 2 Lucy Ann's) are shown on the passenger list for the "LONDON" ariiving at Wellington 1842.

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #59 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:47 GMT (UK) »
Frustrating isnt it??? just got your last one twice so things are looking up  ;D
My thoughts exactly when I saw John son of William born 1831 !!  But there is another family with son John Mason born 1831 in Darley only 10 miles from Alfreton and one at Barrow on Trent only nine miles from Sandiacre soooooooooooo a couple to choose from. AND if we have the correct marriage John's father was John as well and both of those I mention above the father's are named John one with wife Sarah the other with wife Lucy  not a lot of help but could be either occupations of the father's are gardener and ag lab (not helpful) and there doesnt seem to be any family names that I can cotton on to either.   makes for interesting search if nothing else.  Im leaning toward the one from Barrow on Trent  ::)  dont ask me why lol just for the heck of it really. chers
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #60 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:55 GMT (UK) »

ooops  ... meant to add re: 1841 census ... NONE of the MASON's were born in county (of Derbyshire).


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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #61 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:56 GMT (UK) »
Our mails crossed obviously.
I will see if I can contact the lady in question but could you checkout the Will when you are at Archives anyway thanks Luc.     Not sure why she would say only son when there was John mentioned especially in the 1841 census.   Children were William, Lucy and John.  Possibly back then person didnt have access to census of course.  now heres a thing WAS that John that belongs to William and Lucy ON THAT Passenger list if not then he could have been left behind and he COULD be mine and came out later, families often left one behind when they came out (hedging their bets!!) cheers
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #62 on: Sunday 28 October 12 02:57 GMT (UK) »
Mails crossed again and I saw that they were not Derbyshire people but how do we know where they came from??
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)