Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857

[Lucy2]

Hi again Patsy

Hmmm ... the following won't excite you (but no need to go into a "spin", just yet.) 

Have been doing a bit more digging re: immigrants per the "Indian Queen" - in particular looking very hard at the records on the Petone Settlers Database (which I see someone gave you the link to in the other forum.)
[Should just explain though, that this Petone Museum (Early Wellington Settlers) database is compiled (for the most part) from "family-submitted information", and as such should be treated with caution.  There is too a propensity for persons sharing a surname, to be lumped together under the "Is Related To" category, when that isn't necessarily the case.  Despite that, the database is still a useful resource - just needs a bolder "user beware" tag.  ]

So on that site you will have seen a number of entries for -- "MASON - J.A. /" John or J. MASON" ... associated with the immigrant ships "Kinnaird" and "Indian Queen" - dates ranging from 1856 to 1859.  [The "Kinnaird" apparently falls into the same category as the "I/Queen" in that "passenger " info is only available from the promissory notes records. ]

Earlier I mentioned being puzzled that the MASON aboard the "Indian Queen" was indexed as "MASON - J. A.", and it now transpires that this was one "John Augustus MASON" (with his wife (Jane ?) and 2 children).

Confirmation can be found in the obituary of John Augustus MASON who died at Lower Hutt (nr. Welllington) in 1915.   "Evening Post" - 8 June 1915 - Personal Matters :
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  ~  Lu

 
 

 

[Lucy2]

Think I read somewhere that you thought your John MASON may have a connection to William MASON and his son William Frederick MASON - both of whom also resided for a time in Molesworth Street, Thorndon Flat ??

I'd explored the idea of your John MASON perhaps arriving in NZ as a very young child but flagged that, because one of the Petone database records shows a "John MASON" (arrived 1858 - ship "KINNAIRD") with sureties having been given by "W.F. MASON and Wm. MASON". 
[That all these MASON's lived in the vicinity of Molesworth Street, makes me think they might have a family connection ?? ]

So, will now have a look at Archives to see what else can be found. 

[William MASON above, was the Blacksmith chap (d. 1866) - after whom the "Mason Steps" in Wellington were named.  "Evening Post" - 29 January 1913 ]

  ~  Lu   

[Lucy2]

Hi again Patsy

In the Will of your John MASON (1869) was any of his property (real estate), detailed at all ?   If so, details might be helpful.

*  Also, meant to ask earlier about what became of dau. Helena Augusta MASON (as I couldn't see a marriage for her) ??

   ~  Lu 

[patsymac]

Hi Luc,  Helena Augustus MASON married James McDONNELL 18 Dec 1885 in Napier I have copy of marr reg.  Says father John Mason mother Mary Ann MARSHALL witnesses were W Mason and Ellen Gertrude Mason (her brother and sister in law) and I have a copy of her birth reg born in Wgtn father John Mason contractor, mother Mary Ann Marshall so know I have correct parents.  Sorry John's Will only stated leaving everything to his wife and if she predeceased him to his children. No sign of anything about the property he owned at all.

It seems that it isnt my John Mason on the Indian Queen so its start again I presume? nothing is easy is it??      Maybe he is the one on the Kinnaird  and yes it was the occupation of Blacksmith that made me wonder about a family connection dont know why either and the living in the same area. thanks so much for your help Luc you sure are better at this than I am !  cheers Patsy

[patsymac]

Hi Luc, I found the passenger list for the Kinnaird online at Our Stuff and it lists a Mr and Mrs Mason and family as arriving so maybe THIS is them  Need now to see if I can access the original list.
cheers
Patsy

[patsymac]

Hi again Luc, reading the Petone database I note that the John Mason arriving on the Kinnaird is listed as "being related to" Jane Chambers Mason and John Augustus Mason and may be he IS as that could be why he names his daughter Helen Augusta Mason?? so both these Mason families could be part of a wider family unit?  I know you say that "being related to" may not of course be correct the naming of Helena can may be a pointer? what do you think?  cheers Patsy

[Lucy2]

Hi Luc,  Helena Augustus MASON married James McDONNELL 18 Dec 1885 in Napier I have copy of marr reg.  Says father John Mason mother Mary Ann MARSHALL witnesses were W Mason and Ellen Gertrude Mason (her brother and sister in law) and I have a copy of her birth reg born in Wgtn father John Mason contractor, mother Mary Ann Marshall so know I have correct parents.  Sorry John's Will only stated leaving everything to his wife and if she predeceased him to his children. No sign of anything about the property he owned at all.

Hee, hee ... no wonder I couldn't find Helena's marriage ... NZ BDM and NZSG both have her indexed as "Gertrude" MASON.      

Cheers - never mind about John's will.

  ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Luc, I found the passenger list for the Kinnaird online at Our Stuff and it lists a Mr and Mrs Mason and family as arriving so maybe THIS is them  Need now to see if I can access the original list.
cheers
Patsy

 ooops ...yep,  sorry, had forgotten to mention the "Kinnaird" list (transcript) was online.
[Must re-check that as I forgot to make a note of its source. ]

 

[patsymac]

Sorry about that meant to say she was listed under Gertrude. Caused me no end of trouble one of those ones where the Vicar fills out the info AFTER the event probably thought "oh dear what was her name again" took a look at her signature and thought Gussie, of course her name was Gertrude, when in fact Gussie was a nickname for Augusta.   
Have noticed that William Mason of Molesworth St died in an accident (careless lot werent they??) and that he arrived in 1842 must try and track down WHERE he came from and see if its anywhere near where John and Mary Ann came from.
cheers again
Patsy