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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 12 March 17 12:02 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 12 March 17 12:08 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 12 March 17 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Sarah, who had apparently gone to the beach at Islandmagee to collect dulse, was 62, so fits well with her age at 1911.
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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 12 March 17 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Children-
John (c1882)
Josephine (c1884)
William (c1886)
James (c1887)
Robert (1900)
Samuel (1902) died 1903-
   https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05649/4590146.pdf
Agnes/Nancy (1904)
Martha (1906) died 1907-
   https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05524/4548684.pdf
Thomas Alexander George Charles (1907)
Mary Jane (1909)
Leah (1910)
Adam Wilkinson (1913)
Eleanor Hilton[?] (1915)
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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 12 March 17 12:32 GMT (UK) »
Have to be heading, so posting this quote from 1928 Larne Times to remind me to check it further later:

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into the circumstances attendant upon the death a young Larne woman named Agnes Haveron, Bank Road, who was rescued from drowning at the Bankheads on the previous day

A Patrick Haveron was noted as her father and she was aged 23.
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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 12 March 17 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: scotmum on Sunday 12 March 17 12:32 GMT (UK)
Have to be heading, so posting this quote from 1928 Larne Times to remind me to check it further later:

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into the circumstances attendant upon the death a young Larne woman named Agnes Haveron, Bank Road, who was rescued from drowning at the Bankheads on the previous day

A Patrick Haveron was noted as her father and she was aged 23.
Fits with Agnes born 1904.

I don't think the 'Haveron' children born before 1900 were children of Patrick & Sarah (or at least not registered as Haveron, etc. and no trace of them yet in 1911)
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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 12 March 17 13:49 GMT (UK) »
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I don't think the 'Haveron' children born before 1900 were children of Patrick & Sarah (or at least not registered as Haveron, etc. and no trace of them yet in 1911)

If same Sarah, they look to have just been hers. A John Hamill was born in the workhouse to a Sarah Hamill in 1892. A Josephine Hamill born Pound Street in 1894, to a Sarah Hamill.
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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 12 March 17 13:59 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Josephine Haveron (Larne)
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 12 March 17 14:03 GMT (UK) »
Wondering if the Josephine buried as Haveron, actually died as Hamill, and if the story of her death was mixed up with the way Agnes died a few years later. Really heading off this time, so perhaps someone can have a look meantime.
"As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know."  - Donald Rumsfeld

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""People who never look backward to their ancestors will never look forward to posterity." - Edmund Burke

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