1840 freeholders reference

[hall and walsh]

A Joseph Hall of Toberhuney is listed on the 1840  freeholders list. Could someone please help me to interpret the reference?
There is a reference to $20 (pounds!) but no reference to land size. Does that mean he owned a house and no land?

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   I am not sure what the document you refer to is but I think that the spelling should be TOBERHEWNY in the District of Lurgan. In 1864 there is a Sarah Hall renting some land, offices (barns etc) and a house. The whole townland seems to belong to Lord Lurgan. http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearchSee

Regards

[hall and walsh]

hi,
I'm referring to the "list of registered freeholders in the county armagh portion of the lurgan union with their acres and valuation". It is on the lurgan-ancestry website
Joseph Hall of "Taberhewney" is listed, but with no acreage.

[AndyMcElroy]

Hi,

You should note that all Freeholders with a valuation of £50 and £20 do not have their Valuation or Acerage listed, it just seems to be those with a freehold valuation of £10.

Thats what the original list showed so I didnt omit any information from it when putting it on my website:

http://lurgan-ancestry.co.uk/index.php/registered-freeholders-in-the-armagh-portion-of-the-lurgan-union-for-1840/

Andy.

[maura08]

No he didn't own his own land, he was a tenant of Charles Brownlow, and the property was worth £20

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/Freeholders/SearchResults.aspx?PageOffset=2

[hall and walsh]

Thanks for clarifying that for me Maura,
I havent ever looked at these record before, and coming from Oz the freeholders concept is still a bit fuzzy to me. If his land had a value of €20 would Joseph have been likely to be a farmer? He had about eight children, was about 50 years old, died in 1846. The other complication is that there seem to be a couple of Joseph Halls, and Derrycor is mentioned in another separate family document.  could the same Joseph have leased land in both Toberhewny and Derrycor at the same time? 

[hall and walsh]

Thank you, I am trying to make sense of the document, so that I can figure out what Joseph's occupation might have been. Have not used this resource before!

Hi,

You should note that all Freeholders with a valuation of £50 and £20 do not have their Valuation or Acerage listed, it just seems to be those with a freehold valuation of £10.

Thats what the original list showed so I didnt omit any information from it when putting it on my website:

http://lurgan-ancestry.co.uk/index.php/registered-freeholders-in-the-armagh-portion-of-the-lurgan-union-for-1840/

Andy.

[RosemaryJoan]

Do you have the names of his children?  If so, his occupation would be given on their marriage certificates.
RosemaryJoan

[hall and walsh]

Yes thats a good point. Two of his children came to Australia. I assume the others stayed around Lurgan. I was lucky to find refs to the childrens baptisms,  from   1817 to about 1830, just one line in a parish register. I also have a line in another register recording the parents  marriage, but it just says joseph hall and ann atkinson and the date, nothing about parents. Were more detailed marriage records available from 1845, the date that i would expect the other children to marry? I havent found anything yet. Thanks for your interest.