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elizabeth christopher
« on: Thursday 18 October 12 14:25 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find Elizabeth Christopher  abt1865 abergavenny. i can see her as a servant  on 1881 census at the vicarage  Newport road Cardiff she marries Thomas Biggs in 1882 in Cardiff
 I  cant find her in 1871
Her father is Thomas Christopher as he can be seen in 1901 in 9 Helen St Cardiff
 Must be right dad as her daughter Mabel Biggs is there.
 On family search there is an Elizabeth Christoper christened Abergavenny 1864 with father Thomas and mother Caroline
I can see a Thomas and Caroline in Canton Cardiff in 1871 with a daughter Louisa A Christopher born Abergavenny 1864 Could this be her with a different name

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Re: elizabeth christopher
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 October 12 14:40 BST (UK) »
Reference RG10, Piece 5302, Folio 27, Page 7
Peartree Cottage(?), Dingestow, Monmouthshire

Morgan, William  Head  M 75  Stone Mason  b Raglan
Morgan, Mary  Wife  F  61  b Chepstow
Christopher, Elizabeth  Lodger  Married  F  42  Charwoman  b Chepstow
Morgan, Amelia  Daughter  F  20  House Servant out of employment  b Dingestow
Christopher, William  Grandson  M  13  Scholar  b Dingestow
Christopher, Mary Ann  Granddaughter  F  10  Scholar  b Blannon (Blaenavon?)
Christopher, Elizabeth  Granddaughter  F  7  b Blannon (Blaenavon?)
Morgan, Laura  Granddaughter  F  7  b Tregare
Morgan, Emma  Granddaughter  F  6 months  b Dingestow
Lambert, Anne  Lodger  F  9  Scholar


Blaenavon (aka Llanofer) is 4 miles SE of Abergavenny.
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Re: elizabeth christopher
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 October 12 15:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that No Not her Just found Elizabeth Christopher
Age: 17
born  abt 1864 Blaenavon, Monmouth, Wales in 1881 census

with her mother  Elizabeth Christopher
Gender: Female
Where born: Blaenavon, Monmouth, Wales
 

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Re: elizabeth christopher
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 October 12 17:51 BST (UK) »
it could be that the Louisa on the 1871 census is an enumerator's error. The scanned census that we see online is a copy of the enumerator's book, so there's the possibility that the enumerator made an error when writing up the names.

Do you have a copy of Elizabeth's birth cert? This could be the registration

Elizabeth Ann Christopher dec qtr 1864 Abergavenny vol 11a pg 43

Caroline's death was registered in 1874

Caroline Christopher 40 june qtr 1874 Cardiff vol 11a pg 201

and Thomas remarried the following year

Thomas Christopher sept qtr 1875 Cardiff vol 11a pg 394 with Joan Stephens on the same page.

There's a Biggs grandchild with the couple in 1891 as well as 1901.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: elizabeth christopher
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 October 12 18:01 BST (UK) »
Is this her marriage 26 Jul 1882 Roath county of Glamorgan

Elizabeth Ann Christopher 18 spinster of 12 Emerald Street father Thomas Christopher labourer
Thomas Biggs 20 bachelor plasterer of 19 Tin Street father Charles Biggs plasterer
witnesses Edward Phillips and Caroline Biggs
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: elizabeth christopher
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 October 12 18:22 BST (UK) »
If the above marriage is correct this could be her parents marriage
Thursday 14 May 1857 parish church of Trevethin Mons

Thomas Christopher 25 bachelor labourer Blaincwm father Thomas Christopher deceased
Caroline Williams 23 spinster Pontypool father Moses Williams labourer
witnesses John Higgs and James Saunders
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: elizabeth christopher
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 October 12 18:34 BST (UK) »
I have a feeling they married in Hereford as Thomas Christopher was said to be from Worcester born 1831 and Caroline 1825 Llantillo Pertholey on 1861 census or in 1871 Thomas Hereford and Caroline Pantegelly There is a marriage in Hereford in 1852 Thomas Christopher and Caroline Davis It was Louisa foxing me !!

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Re: elizabeth christopher
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 October 12 19:08 BST (UK) »
the birth cert would confirm Caroline's maiden name. The Pontypool one looks far more likely. The 1852 Hereford marriage looks to be to Hannah Tanner - 1861 census RG9/4226 folio 5 pg 7, and Caroline Davis married William Walters  - 1871 census RG10/2706 folio 56 pg 2.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: elizabeth christopher
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 October 12 21:59 BST (UK) »
 I must get birth cert but there were two born in Abergavenny one in 1864 one in 1865  I cant work out why it says her father Thomas was born 1831Hereford  in 1881 census In 1901 it says hes from Radnor and in 1871 it says Mordiford
I got a lot to learn
 Love to know where full marriage details are found too