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John William Taylor. Arrived Canada 1922.
« on: Wednesday 17 October 12 21:44 BST (UK) »
Trying to find the last resting place of my grandfather's brother. John William Taylor, aka Jack Taylor.

My grandfather and his younger brother were both born in Worcestershire, England in the 1890s. John William was born about 1896. They were both orphaned in 1901 when their parents and young sister died from Typhoid fever. They both spent time in The Royal Orphange in Wolverhampton before finding work in the local steel works and lodging with their cousin.

John married Elsie Grove in 1918 and had a daughter Dorothy in 1919.

In 1922 John William Taylor sailed to Canada on the SS Scythia, arriving in Halifax, Nova Scotia on April 16th 1922. His destination was Hill Top Farm, Kenaston, Saskatchewan, Canada, where he was assured of work as a farmer with a Mr James Richard Rock.

He travelled to Canada alone and never returned to the UK. He was divorced a few years later. His daughter and my mother were quite close and often visited each other, but all contact was lost with her father and she never knew his whereabouts in Canada.

So, as a newbie to overseas family research I wonder if anybody can offer me a few pointers of where to look for records. My initial searches on shipping lists and www.collectionscanada.gc.ca have not turned any mention of him, so I have sent a similar request to the Saskatchewan Archives. Ulimately, I would like to discover whether he married again and/or had any more children in Canada. It would also be satisfying to put closure on my Great Uncle Jack's life and find out the date and details of his death/burial. My mother is now in her 80s and she would also be interested to learn what happened to her Uncle. Any leads or tips, no matter how small would be gratefully accepted.


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Re: John William Taylor. Arrived Canada 1922.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 October 12 05:29 BST (UK) »
Good evening moto,

Kenaston, Saskatchewan is not too far from Saskatoon, a major city in the province. I will suggest you contact the public library in Saskatoon for a lookup in their local newspaper archives to see if they can locate an obit for John. Similarly I would contact the local genealogy group for info on him.

There are some rootschatters from Saskatoon that may be able to help you out. Sometimes I see them in the chatroom so you may want to check that out as well. Hopefully they will see this query and provide you with some more suggestions.

Hope this helps you,

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Re: John William Taylor. Arrived Canada 1922.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 October 12 05:57 BST (UK) »
A local history book for Kenaston, Saskatchewan has a write-up about the Jake Taylor family (written by Jake) but this is NOT your Jack. In the write-up he indicates he moved to Kenaston in 1926 with his sister Jessie and her husband Charley Mutimer. There is a transcript and picture of his grave marker at the Saskatchewan Cemeteries Project as follows: Jake J. Taylor, 1894-1983. As well, the 1916 census for Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta has Jake listed as Jacob Taylor in the household of his brother-in-law and sister.

If you contact the Saskatoon Public Library you may want to make it clear that you are not looking for Jacob "Jake" Taylor who was married to Margaret "Pearl" Westman.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: John William Taylor. Arrived Canada 1922.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 October 12 14:59 BST (UK) »
You may find the National Registration File of 1940 helpful. This resulted from the compulsory registration of all persons, 16 years of age or older, in the period from 1940 to 1946. This is another way to find an ancestor in that time period. This is a Census Substitute, not a naturalization record.

See http://www.naturalizationrecords.com/canada/ for help with this and to see a list of all the questions asked. Good luck!
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Re: John William Taylor. Arrived Canada 1922.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 October 12 05:31 BST (UK) »
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/022/022-911.007-e.html

You can't use the 1940 National Registration unless you can provide proof of death and know where the person resided when they registered.
The fee for the record is $45.00.


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Re: John William Taylor. Arrived Canada 1922.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 October 12 09:32 BST (UK) »
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/022/022-911.007-e.html

You can't use the 1940 National Registration unless you can provide proof of death and know where the person resided when they registered.

You don't need to have proof of death "when the person would be over 110 years of age".

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: John William Taylor. Arrived Canada 1922.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 October 12 19:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies, it's all good and I found some other useful links for records to search. I've sent requests to the Saskatchewan Archives Board and also to Saskatchewan Genealogy Society to see if they can help with my search,

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Re: John William Taylor. Arrived Canada 1922.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 October 12 19:22 BST (UK) »
Can I still request a search of the 1940 National registration if I'm not 100% certain where John lived in 1940?  I know all of his details prior to 1922, but nothing after his arrival in Canada. His Form 30A simply says he was heading for Hill Top farm in Kenaston. I have no proof that he actually went there though.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 October 12 20:46 BST (UK) »
The write-up at the Archives website says you have to know where his residence was in 1940.

Jacquie
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz