Descendants of John Ebenezer Black

[kiwihalfpint]

This could be her death in 1866, no age given, and location is Invercargill.


Cheers
KHP

[New Zealander]

Well that opened up a can of worms

Actually when I first went into the NZSG Burial Locator and searched Invercargill and Southland Cemeteries found no record.  Hadn't got as far as Papers Past and damn it all I was in Archives NZ, Dunedin two days ago



Alex G

[minniehaha]

There are 331 entries for John E. Black in the 'Southland Times'. May not all be John Ebenezer.

One dated 7.3.1873 gives a good description of Heaton Farm which was "for sale or lease".

Another in the Public Notices dated 3.8.1881 reads-

John E. Black
Miller & Grain Merchant
Steam Grain Mills
Winton.

(See above, my posting showing the link between Heaton Farm, the mills at Winton and John E. Black.)

Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

Another report in the 'Southland Times' involving a case of larceny where property was stolen from Mr. J. E. Black. Wife Sarah and daughter Isabella are also mentioned.

Date of newspaper:

11.12.1889.

A previous report appears on 12.11.1889. At that stage referred to as "alleged larceny".


Minniehaha.

[Wab]

Hello

I am a descendant of John Ebenezer Black through his second wife Sarah. Their daughter Anna Elizabeth married Thomas Alfred Connor in 1897. They had two children, Lucretia and Tom. Tom was killed in the Hyde railway disaster in 1943 along with his son John.

Lucretia married Havilland Charles Rapsey Blackwood (known as Toby), their children were Keith (my grandfather) and Anne.

Lucretia died in 1947 aged only 47 and was buried in Hamilton.

Cheers

William

[106519]

Wow, so much response, so quickly! Where to start!?
The Black family built a large agribusiness here in Northumberland stemmimg from their blacksmith's business which produced tools for agriculture and mining, becoming large scale farmers, millers and grain merchants. JEB was the youngest child of James and Ann Black of New Heaton, Heaton Mill, and Ford Mills and Forge. JEB's first wife was a houseservant which may have incurred his parent's displeasure and caused him to throw up his excellent prospects for a new country. I think his second wife may have been a half-sister to his first. I farm one of the Black's farms and have long had an interest in this fascinating family. JEB's ventures in NZ were not too successful and he was declared bankrupt after his mill burnt down.
We have a daughter living in Arrowtown so I thought it would be interesting to see where JEB settled next time we visit. A google search for One Tree Point only brought up somewhere in Northland.
I replied to shiska18's post "Need help with this photo". With the help of a Black descendant I now think it is possible the photo is of JEB's cousin George Black who ran the Spittal spadeworks. JEB posted his death notice in the Southland Times, so it is reasonable to think that there were people there who had met him.

[minniehaha]

May I suggest that while in New Zealand you make enquiries of the Dunedin Regional office of Archives New Zealand as you would probably like to obtain a copy of the Deeds Plan of Heaton Farm while it was owned by J. E. Black?

This can be ordered and is presented by Archives on an A3 sheet* or CD. As a student of your family history I am sure you would find this document well worth having.

The search for this can be done on line but assistance may be needed by staff to locate the Deed required.

*Not sure about this but it is twice the size of A4.

Minniehaha. 

[carlolsen]

 
         An aside, on our t.v. tonight ARROWTOWN celebrates 150 years since discovery of gold.
            Hope your daughter enjoyed . Seemed to be a great occassion.
                                                                                                         
                                                                                                               Regards, Carl.

[106519]

Thank you Minniehaha and Carlolsen,

I have found One Tree Point, out in the Edendale direction, but I guess the name Heaton Farm has gone, 130 acres isn't viable any more. He seems to have got around a bit, his mill was at Winton, he also applied to build a mill at Mataura, but was turned down.  There is a short report on the loss of the mill at http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=GRA18850223.2.9.11&srpos=2&e=-------10--1----0Winton+Flour+Mills-- , I guess being underinsured caused the bankrupcy.
Yes, Arrowtown's history is fascinating, the lure of gold took people to such remote places, Skippers, Bullendale, and Macetown etc. Have had a good look in the Arrow, but haven't managed to find any gold yet ....