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John Helm Hale
« on: Wednesday 17 October 12 15:21 BST (UK) »
John born 1861 Huddersfield Yorkshire,went to the USA just after 1901 with
wife emmeline children frank,richard,phiip, millicent,maude and geoffrey.
Applied for naturalisation new york county between 1907 and 1924.
Does anyone have any information?

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Re: John Helm Hale
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 16:52 BST (UK) »
He appears to be on the 1920 Census here - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJ15-F9L#  He was a building engineer living at 116 Sherman Ave.  (The naturalization index gives the same address, and no other specific information.)  The census says he & his wife emigrated in 1906.

In the 1915 New York state census, John is living with daughter Maud Radley & her husband Clifford, wife Emmeline, and son Geoffrey.  John was listed as a plumber.

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Re: John Helm Hale
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 16:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Whiston,


Welcome to Rootschat

John and Emmeline appear on the 1915 New York Census with married daughter Maude.

Cliffta Radley 23 Born Eng. Gardener.
Maud Radley 18 Born Eng
John Hale 54 Born Eng. Father-in-law. Plummer. Journeyman.
Emmline Hale 57 Born Eng. Mother-in-law
Geoffrey Hale 15 Born Eng. Brother-in-law. Office boy.

1915 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K92V-YTD

1920 Maude Radley and family

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MV36-Q1Y

1930 Maude Radley and Family

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4GP-25C

1940 Maude Radley and Family

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQ5C-1K4

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Re: John Helm Hale
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 17:02 BST (UK) »
Emmeline & Geoffrey are together in the 1925 state census at the same address, but John is not with them.  There's a possible death on the death index at www.italiangen.org for John Hale, age 64, on 2 Oct. 1924 in Manhattan.

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Re: John Helm Hale
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 17:19 BST (UK) »
Waring Row Yonkers, Westchester, New York in 1940

Janet Cellet 91
Emmeline Hale 83 Born England. Widowed. Lodger.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K31R-4T9


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Re: John Helm Hale
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 17:25 BST (UK) »
On www.fultonhistory.com, there is an obituary for Millicent Hassall, daughter of the late John & Emmeline Ennis Hale.  It says she was born in England 17 Jun. 1890 and previously lived in New York City.  Millicent died 21 Jun. 1985 in Kent, New York.  If you do a search for the exact phrase "Emmeline Ennis Hale", it should come up.

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Re: John Helm Hale
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 17:32 BST (UK) »
Possibility for the son Richard Hale in Yonkers Ward 5, Westchester, New York 1910

Richard Hale 22 Born Eng. Immigrated 1908. Marriage 1 for 2 years. Weaver. Carpet Co.
Annie E Hale 21 Born Eng. Had 1 child.
Stanley Hale Born Eng. 1 year 9 months  
Wentworth Wrigley 31 Born Eng. Brother-in-law. Wireman. Elevator Co.
Emma J Wrigley 26 Born Eng.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M531-GP6

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Re: John Helm Hale
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 17:33 BST (UK) »
Canadian Attestation Papers for Richard Hale born July 28th 1887 Huddersfield

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Re: John Helm Hale
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 17:34 BST (UK) »
Also on the fultonhistory.com site, there is an obituary for Frank Hale, who died 7 Mar. 1919 in Yonkers.   It says he was survived by his wife, 4 children, his parents, and 5 siblings - Geoffrey Hale of New York, Richard Hale in the Canadian service, Robert Hale of England, Mrs. Maud Radley and Mrs. Millicent Hassall of Yonkers.  Internment was to be at Oakland cemetery.
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