Birth record for Charles Wood location unsure & struggling with this one.

[shell2012]

The 1871 census might be them as elizabeth i think was born liverpool but her mother and father were born holywell in wales so could be wales on that census by default.?  James the son is not on the census and he was born 1863 but could be staying away somewhere. So its plausible yes....

[andycand]

Hi

The 1871 census family with Susannah Woods is not your family as Susannah and her parents Charles & Elizabeth are on the 1881 census at 96 Edge Lane RG11; Piece: 3704; Folio: 8; Page: 10

In the 1881 census your Elizabeth Wood , a widow, along with sons James and George (who was not Charles son) are living at 22 Clement St Also in the household are Elizabeths sisters. RG11; Piece: 3601; Folio: 61; Page: 39

To avoid people spending time duplicating information found (or ruled out) could you link the several topics relating to Charles Wood.

Andy

[shell2012]

Hello Andycand,
Of course your right ! Yes I was going to come back with that reply regarding the 1881 census. I have tried to say that the other related posts are under '' Finding James Woods marriage'' I wrote this in my first post on here to avoid confusion. As I do not know how to link threads together. I have tried but it wont allow me to(a copyright warning appears so I must be doing something wrong). I have only been using this site for a few months and it took me a week to figure out how to post, initially. It seems crucial that this missing 1871 census is the one that is most valuable in finding out Charles Wood place of birth then at least id know where in the uk to start looking for a possible baptism. I will try and work out how to navigate links to this thread, if not can someone explain to me how to do it please. I am a ''rootschat'' novice when it comes to anything more than posting and private emails that's as far as I've learnt to do myself. I am pretty good with pc skills as well.
Kind Regards,
Michelle   

[shell2012]

Latest update on this one after failing to find anything on immigration, , death, death at sea, alien travellers into the Uk (yes alien), travel, wills, tax, land, 1871 census, records. Decided to home in on the 1881 census as that's all I have. Looked at all the local area of households origin of birth and occupations of clement St, Liverpool in 1881 and it looks like there is a pattern. If you were a seaman/mariner you would have been most likely be born abroad. On the same street as Charles Wood's widow were mainly seamen origin of birth East & West Indies being head of their households. In particular Trinidad kind of struck a chord with me, as when googled on maps Trinidad is in the ''Port of Spain''. My friend said well their colour is very dark, I replied not necessarily there is a light and dark skin tone in all cultures, black, Asian, French, Italian etc. Could it be that the family story has become twisted & re framed over time passed through the generations from Charles born in area of Port of Spain to Spain. As looking at all of this street and surrounding street households Vauxhall street and another street beginning with B. None originated from Spain. The very most they originated from Liverpool or Ireland (Dublin or Wentford) and tended to have typical occupations to that area of Liverpool as Carter's, general labourer's, Dock labourer's, and women either housewives or seamstresses. Another ship occupation was a female cook from Nassau West/ East Indies, and ship carpenters but they tended to come from Liverpool and only two other seamen one from Holland, and the other Isle of Man. Nothing from Spain. Hm, and I finally getting warm ?   

Regards,
Michelle

[lizdb]

I have a lot of mariners amongst my ancestors - but none born abroad! I don't think you can jump to that conclusion.

[garstonite]

Elizabeth Covell baptised 2nd june 1840 at St Peter,Liverpool
parents James Covell and Sarah
born 20th May 1840
abode Burlington Street
occ of James - Joiner
baptised by Thomas Macgill

possible for Elizabeth ................? if you say Elizabeths parents were born in Wales , I presume you know their names ...is t James and Sarah ?....if so ...St Peter is C of E ?
Charles and Elizabeth married in St Alban church, Athol Street, Liverpool ...Roman Catholic

[shell2012]

Ok Liz,

Point taken it was my friend who suggested the connection with her tree then i looked into it further, i guess when you start getting desperate for an answer and nothing is coming up after years of research, you start using a cardinal sin and start clutching at any straw, lol. I guess the reason why the family are looking for an answer to origin of birth as not being british white caucasion is that the family photo of John Joseph woods who is charles wood grandson is very darked skin and all the male and female descendants today have the same very dark skin. I wish I could upload the black and white photo of him to show you, its more than the average summer tanned darkness. So that's why they surmised that its based on the colour of the skin in the family also that has come through very strong to current generations today and the purpose of the family research for them in the first place was to try and find the answer out for this.

 Hello Garstonite,

Close, but its the Elizabeth Covell who was born 16th Jan 1836 and baptised 17 Jan 1836 St Peter's Priory. Her Parents names are I believe Wlliam Covell (Mariner) and born Liverpool and Mary Mannall born 1814 Holywell. Charles & Elizabeth married St Alban you are correct but in Bevington area. Although I think (but you just never know) I have found all the correct details for Elizabeth Covell and her family back to her grandparents John Covell and Sarah Covell. I am slightly puzzled by the fact and have questioned whether I've found the right people but, Elizabeth Covell's parents according to the records and all the documents only married in 1843 in St Phillips Church Parish of Liverpool, after having their all their 4 children from 1830 til 1838. I know his occupation was a mariner and possibly he couldn't have the time off to organise a wedding but the location of the church St Philips Church by Hope St Liverpool is out of their living district (?) which is in Crosbie St, Liverpool. This has stumped me as they are a Catholic family from what their children's baptism's suggest and most Catholic Roman Catholic from their grandchildren and gt grandchildren's baptism's and marriages. How strange maybe the Catholic faith was a growing and developing on as the newer generations were born ?