Birth record for Charles Wood location unsure & struggling with this one.

[shell2012]

All I know is that he married Liverpool in 1862 aged 29 to ELizabeth Covell. So his approx birth year about 1833 from that information and that is the only reason why I have posted in the Lancashire section. As I don't know where else to post. He could have been born elsewhere in the Uk or even outside of Uk ? 

(because I have tried and cannot successfully link the other threads related to this family)
I know nothing else about Charles Wood per se. Other than, please see other related threads to this family Re: Can anybody find any census records for Charles Wood or Woods from Liverpool ?
Re:Finding marriage of James Woods Liverpool. Please see last post on this thread for further details of Charles Wood marriage banns. Thank you !!!!

If anyone can find his birth record it would be a great start to discover where he maybe from but its such a mystery, I am not holding my breath as I have looked everywhere myself and found nothing that relates specifically to him. Maybe there is no birth record for him ? But I am asking for help from anyone willing as I am really struggling with this one myself.

Many Thanks in advance,
Michelle

[lizdb]

Have you for him in 1871/ 81 etc censuses?
What place and year of birth do they suggest?

1833 is before civil registration, so the only record you can hope to find is a christening. Maybe he wasn't christened, or you have yet to look in the correct parish. Or maybe he was, but in a Catholic or non conformist church.

[shell2012]

Its not easy at all, as I cant find him on any census's prior to this marriage or after it. His son is baptised a Catholic and the family all are catholic baptised after that but nothing, no records throughout the whole uk and I've looked everywhere every Charles wood census prior to marriage with a father called James and looked at his occupation at marriage 'mariner' nothing comes up on 1861 census's.  All I know is his father is James wood farmer. There are provisional Woods findings names that I have added to the tree based on searching baptisms for Woods Liverpool around his birth year but this information is not based on any concrete factual evidence. That's why I thought Id better start off the correct way and find his birth record first. 

[lizdb]

If he was a mariner he was likely to be away at sea on prevoius censuses then.

Have you really looked through every christening record in the uk?Notall are online, and certainly not many catholic or non conformist ones, so it would seem a mammoth task to visit all record offices and trawl through all records that have survived.

And we can't rule out that he wasn't christened.

Is he never at home in any census after is marriage?

[heywood]

Previous thread referred to is here: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,613716.msg4679363.html#msg4679363

[lizdb]

Possible for 1871 on other thread

[shell2012]

The problem I have is I do not know where he was born what part of Uk as there are no clues to help me. Its a mystery that I cant find him on any census records either. I have looked through every census on england and wales in 1861 under wood-both for Charles and his father as that is all I have to go on. I have looked through all baptism records for wood in liverpool and lancs and uk for that year for charles wood on one site that gives access to parishes. I cant find any census under his name after marriage, nothing appears that fits both description of father as farmer and him as mariner for 1861 and 1851. The only trace i can find on a 1871 census of a son named james wood kirkdale fever Hospital whitefield lane westminster rd, kirkdale for that area in time. Only found a charles wood born eastbourne 1835 fisherman. There is a james wood in 1861 who is an ag lab speke lancs in 1861 father in law widower  as daughter is alice married as mawdsley b 1823 a farmers wife, woolton lans husband william mawdsley b1817 employing 1 lab west derby allerton, allerton rd. That's all i can find for that area and I cant take these as any source of linked evidence really as they could be anyone ?  yes that is the thread that I have asked people to read for further details.,

[lizdb]

I think you need to forget about James until you can establish some facts about Charles, and then work back. But don't try to go back till you have something solid to work from.

Who were Charles children? Have you got this family in later censuses? Is Charles never there?
I found a possible in 1871 but it is on the other thread. (If he married in 1862 he is hopefully with wife then, unless away at sea in which case we need detail of the children to look for the right family)

[shell2012]

I only know charles had one child for definite james wood born 9 sept 1863 as that is where i have found most of the work & census's start being traceable from 1891 and james his son is aged 28 then and married. So there are no found census's of james as a child which is also making it difficult. I wanted to help my friend so much to find the truth around the source of colour in her family but looks like I am unable to get to the bottom of it. the 1881 census James's father Charles was already deceased