TOSI (Sartirana,Pavia)

[120camden]

Steve62,
Just reading this post about how you helped someone find information.  I have a great grandmother born in Sartiriana, provence di Pavia, Italy and would love to have birth information. 
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[steve62]

Hi 120 camden,
Just back from the UK, so sorry for the long delay in replying.
Ok, give me name/surname/d.o.b./place of birth.
I am sure I can get the info you need.

Steve

[120camden]

Thank you.  I have some pieces of information but I cannot be 100% sure.  I believe the date of birth is Sept 28, 1873.  The place of birth listed in her 1945 obituary says she was "born in Sartirana, province de Pavia, Italy.  ( Is there such a place or is that just a region?)

And, for her name.  I have seen listed Jeanne Tosi on a USA immigration document.  Lagneau was her married name.  Her obituary lists her name as Joan Mary.  Unfortunately I do not have a birth name.

Perhaps....Giovannia (is that italian for Jeanne or Joan? 

I just can;t seem to find anything which is 100% correct.  Any help you can give me I would appreiate.  I have requested some microfilm from Familysearch.com, which has arrived.  I believe it might have been birth records from that time frame and from maybe that region.  I just have not been able to set up a time yet to sit and peruse through it.  I am sure it will be timely.

I do know that Jeanne did come with her husband in Nov 1920 from Choisy de Rol, France to the USA.  I have Ellis Island records.  It does list her as Italian.

[steve62]

Hi camden120,
Pavia in northern Italy is the province where the town is Sartirana.
Taking it her maiden name is Tosi.   As for names  Giovanna or Giovanna Maria would be correct italian.  Date of birth, year will be ok.
So we have italian/french/american rcords.  Going to check all three as she marfied I presume in France and then went to the USA.
Keep looking in on here, it will take me a few days as I have several ongoing projects, mine and others..
Not a problem for me, but cannot make any promises, see what I can find.

Steve

[120camden]

I appreciate your interest.
As a side note....I believe Jeanne (my great grandmother) was born in Italy.  At some point, and I do not know the timeframe, she emigrated to Buenos Aires.  I just recently found out some incredible information recently.  My grandmother, was not her biological daughter. 
Armand Lagneau (Laino in the 1895 Argentine Census) was in Buenos Aires with his wife, son.  And that is where my grandmother was born. 
According to a US passport application for my grandmother in 1920, she listed she returned to France in 1916.  In a 1920 French marriage certificate my grandmother lists her biological mother as "absent"....which may be interpreted as "divorce"?  Possibly then her father, Armand came back with Jeanne Tosi as his wife?  Maybe he met her in France after 1916?  In 1929, Jeanne Tosi Lagneau makes a trip back to Buenos Aires from the USA with her step daughters grandson.  Must be to visit relatives? 

Chasing ghosts!!

[steve62]

Hi Camden124,
Starting a new thread on this so as not to confuse the "Italian Census".
Right have sent an e-mail, here in Italy, to see if I can get hold of the birth details of (Giovanna) TOSI 1873.
Start from there and see what happened to her and who her parents were.
Give a little time for reply.

Steve

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[garstonite]

Hiya Steve...this person has 53 Tosi in their tree...have a look and see if your Giovanna is in it
Giovanni 1883 - 1950 is in it ...10 years out ...only had a quick look at the first 10 or so ....you may have more luck

http://gw2.geneanet.org/kanopalo?lang=en&m=N&v=TOSI

good luck
allan

[steve62]

Alan,

Thank you for your kind input.  Looked at tree and found Giovanna "Jeanne" Tosi who married Roberte Pessognelli and she died in France.  Could be more than a coincidence.   There are no dates - seems they must have problems.  She may be the female we are looking for given the name "Jeanne   " , which she did use at one time.  Keeping hold of that site to see if anything matches what I find.
Grateful thanks for your interest - every bit helps.

Camdem124:  Could be something in that - we will get there in the end.


Steve

[steve62]

120Camden,

Not forgotten you, but I am still waiting for some replies here in Italy.  Have sent reminders.

Steve