Jennis/Gennis family

[Valda]

Hi

4th February 1874 St George in the East
Jacob Nelson Full Age Bachelor Mariner St George's East Nils Nelson ?
Martha Jenness Full Age Widow St George's East William Jenness Bootmaker
Martha made her mark
Witnesses Thomas James and Jemima ?


Regards

Valda

[Valda]

Hi

5th December 1882 St Mark Victoria Park
George Thomas Wright 29 Bachelor Railway Clerk Bow Gilbert Wright Deceased Commercial Traveller
Francis Jennis 30 Spinster Bow William Jennis Shoemaker
Both signed
Witnesses Hugh and Mary Owen

Frances' age is given as 39 on the 1891 census born St George in the East. RG12 1330 folio 35

Living as husband and wife on the 1881 census RG11 424 folio 33. Frances aged 30. Looks like a bit of age adjusting.


Regards

Valda

[jennifer c]

A male is researching William Ginnis 1809 Ireland on GenesReunited.

Jennifer

[Edrubava]

Many thanks again!  The spelling of 'Geinees' is certainly one I haven't come across, and I thought I'd tried all variants of the name.  The William Geinees with Emma Maria and Louisa in '81 is worth investigating - thanks.

I'm pretty sure that the Frances marriage to George Thomas Maggs is correct, even though I can't find her again after her marriage.  The other Frances marrying George Thomas Wright - well, unless Frances left her first husband and called herself Jennis again (I think that's what sister Martha does?) - I can't quite see how it fits.  Again it's worth investigating though.

I had found the Martha Jenness marrying Jacob Nelson but I still don't know for sure as she should be Martha Lawson?  I will look into that again though!

I googled the William Ginnis on GR but don't think it's one of ours as he's in a different area.

The William Jenness death in 1883 is definitely worth paying for the certificate, so thanks again for that.
I'll also look into the witnesses for William and Emma Maria's marriage.

Thanks again to Valda and jennifer c for your help 

[Valda]

Hi

Emma Maria' s first husband was Gilbert Wright. They had a son baptised 24th July 1853 at St George in the East called George Thomas Wright. Gilbert was a commercial traveller. These details fit the information given on the marriage of Frances Jennis to George Thomas Wright in 1882.

The William Jenness death registration in 1883 is in London City registration district. Emma Maria's death registration in 1891 is also in London City registration district.

Trees on Ancestry claim William's wife Jane's maiden name was Baker. No evidence is given for this but presumably a birth certificate of one of the children born after the start of civil registration would confirm that.


Regards

Valda

[Edrubava]

Thanks Valda 

I sent for Frances's birth certificate which gave me Jane Baker - but as she (Jane) and William married (presumably) in Ireland I assumed I wouldn't be able to find their marriage.  If I could, I could tie in William Jennis's father on the 1872 marriage -  said to be a Captain of Merchant Vessel.  That seems a long way off a humble shoemaker for a son??

I agree that the Wright marriage of George and Frances fits in.  I've been trying to compare signatures of William Gennis - I'm still in that process but not sure if it will tell me anything!

Many thanks
Julie

[Valda]

Hi

Whether William and Jane married in Ireland or England as their first known child was born circa 1831/2 before civil registration in either country you would be very unlikely to find out anything about either's parentage from the marriage unless the witnesses were related.

Captain of a Merchant Ship in the intervening 60 odd years may have grown from what might originally have been merchant seaman. If English he may or may not have remained in Ireland.


Regards

Valda

[Edrubava]

Oh yes - didn't think about the dates, of course I wouldn't find out anything!

I've just re-checked my tree and find the following regarding his and Jane's children:

Betsy/Elizabeth b 1832 - can find on 41 and 51 only - no marriage or death?

William b 1834 m Catherine Donovan, widowed then remarries Emily Myers 1870 - can find in 81 and 91 only - no deaths?

Martha b 1837 m Rasmus Lawson 1865 then possibly remarries Jacob Nelson 1874

Twins John Francis and Maria Elizabeth are quite easy - John marries Jemima Rance 1865 - can only find Jemima living with sister Jane with her children (b 1867 1869 and 1872) - no death or anything on John?

Maria Elizabeth m W H Billingsley 1861 and I can actually follow her all the way through to her death in 1913.

Even to find the death of the William that marries Emily would be good 

Thanks again

[Valda]

Hi

1861 census RG9 285 folio 100 William Jennis junior, wife Catherine and two children.


Regards

Valda