Albert Edward CAIN

[~MERLIN~]

Christening:

Catherine CAIN ch. 29 Aug 1859; St Mary of the Angels, Catholic, GEELONG.
Father: Thomas CAIN
Mother: Mary GRAHAM

[cando]

Ah a couple of postw while I have been typing this up.

Now to Albert....   This certificate MAY have more identifying information.  Do you have this certificate?

24377/1946    
CAIN    Albert
Father Patrick
District Rozelle

Would you please answer this question

May I please ask where the number 3259A is recorded.   I ask this because on NSW BDM death certs for the era up to around 1955, when a chap who had served during WWI died (in NSW) THEN his AIF number would be stamped on the NSW BDM registrar's ledgers...  Then when NSW BDM issues an historic certificate that AIF number can be found on the upper left hand corner of their certificate.... 

JM

This child's birth was not registered.
Death
CAIN Joseph
Father Unknown  Mother Bridget CAIN
1879  7 weeks  Born Victoria  Reg#5083

Births
CAIN Joseph Thomas
Father Unknown Mother Bridget CAIN
At West Melbourne  1889  Reg#24164

CAIN Patrick
Father Unknown  Mother Bridget CAIN
At Carlton  1893  Reg#20562  Died aged 3 days at Carlton Womens Hospital  Reg#9133

CAIN Alfred  [Is this actually Albert?]
Father Unknown  Mother Bridget CAIN
At Hotham East  1897  Reg#20026

And her death?

CAIN Bridget
Father Cain Thomas Mother Mary CAIN
At Melbourne East 59 years  1910  Reg#2563

I suggest you purchase Bridget CAIN's death certificate.  Hopefully the informant had accurate information about her life although her age is not an accurate match with the age of Bridget on Thomas's death cert.  Her father's occupation MAY be noted if known to the informant.

This would be my next step if I was researching Albert CAIN.  Perhaps Alfred's birth certificate may be useful ie where was he born etc?

Australian Electoral Roll
1903
CAIN Bridget  1 St Andrews Street, North Melbourne  Tailoress

I note that Caroline DAVIS's death reg has her father as Thomas Patrick.  It is not unusual to see illegitimate chn use the given name of one or more of their grandparents.  Perhaps that is the source of the Patrick noted as Albert's father on the index.

Good luck
Cando 

[Essie]

"May I please ask where the number 3259A is recorded"

War service record in Reply#17
WW1 - CAIN Albert : Service #3259A : POB Melbourne VIC : POE Melbourne VIC  (both parents dead)

[cando]

Essie the question relates to the death certificate - asked by JM to identify that we are researching the correct Albert.

BINGO  - interred at Melbourne General Cemetery Church of England Section II Grave 615

DAVIS

In Loving Memory of
my dear mother
Mary CAIN MACCLUEY
died 12 Mar 1889
also my dear sister
Mary Jane CAIN
died 9 Dec 1892
Catherine CAIN
died 22 Jul 1892
Bridget CAIN
died 15 Mar 1910
Also my dear husband
Edward Robert DAVIS
died
23 Sep 1907
R I P

Note The Register has McCLUCY as the surname.

Death
McCLUEY Mary
Parents unknown
At Hotham East 52 years  1889  Reg#2705

CAIN Catherine
Parents unknown
At Melbourne East Hospital 28 years  1892  Reg#10969

Can't identify Mary Jane in the death index....yet

Cando

[cando]

Death
DAVIS Edward
Father Davis George  Mother Elizabeth STOWE
At Melbourne East 39 years  1907  Reg#9392

Wonder what happened to Arthur whom Caroline married in 1910.  He appears to be gone by 1914.  Directories were usually compiled in the latter part of the year prior to publication.

1915 Sands & McDougall Directory
BARTLETT Mrs Caroline 234 Madeleine Street, Carlton

Cando

[cando]

Mary Jane CAIN
died 9 Dec 1892

Typo...should be 1891. 

CAIN Mary
Parents unknown
At East Melbourne Hospital 1891  23 years  Reg#16661

Perhaps you may like the following for your records

Australian Electoral Roll
1903
CAIN Bridget 1 St Andrews Street, North Melbourne  Tailoress
CAIN Sarah  23 Sackville Street, Collingwood   Tailoress
DAVIS Caroline  14 Merritt's Place Melbourne HD
DAVIS Edward Robert  14 Merritt's Place Melbourne  Labourer

1904 Sands & McDougall Directory
HICKEY John  1 St Andrews Street, North Melbourne

1915 Sands & McDougall Directory
BARLETT Mrs Caroline 234 Madeleine Street, Carlton

1919
DAVIS Edward Robert  234 Madeline Street, Brunswick  Labourer
DAVIS Ethel Louisa  234 Madeline Street, Brunswick  Factory Hand

1924
DAVIS Caroline  172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North  HD
DAVIS Edward Robert  172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North Labourer
DAVIS Ethel Louisa  172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North Tobacco worker

CAIN Ellen Eva Gredgwin Railway Station  HD
CAIN Herbert Gredgwin Railway Station Railway employee

1931, 1936, 1942, 1949,
CAIN Ellen Eva  110 Collier Crescent Brunswick  HD
CAIN Herbert  110 Collier Crescent  Brunswick Railway employee

1954
CAIN Ellen Eva  110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West  HD
CAIN Herbert  110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West Railway employee
CAIN Mervyn 110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West 


Cando 

[bubs]

Mary Jane CAIN
died 9 Dec 1892

Typo...should be 1891. 

CAIN Mary
Parents unknown
At East Melbourne Hospital 1891  23 years  Reg#16661

Perhaps you may like the following for your records

Australian Electoral Roll
1903
CAIN Bridget 1 St Andrews Street, North Melbourne  Tailoress
CAIN Sarah  23 Sackville Street, Collingwood   Tailoress
DAVIS Caroline  14 Merritt's Place Melbourne HD
DAVIS Edward Robert  14 Merritt's Place Melbourne  Labourer

1904 Sands & McDougall Directory
HICKEY John  1 St Andrews Street, North Melbourne

1915 Sands & McDougall Directory
BARLETT Mrs Caroline 234 Madeleine Street, Carlton

1919
DAVIS Edward Robert  234 Madeline Street, Brunswick  Labourer
DAVIS Ethel Louisa  234 Madeline Street, Brunswick  Factory Hand

1924
DAVIS Caroline  172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North  HD
DAVIS Edward Robert  172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North Labourer
DAVIS Ethel Louisa  172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North Tobacco worker

CAIN Ellen Eva Gredgwin Railway Station  HD
CAIN Herbert Gredgwin Railway Station Railway employee

1931, 1936, 1942, 1949,
CAIN Ellen Eva  110 Collier Crescent Brunswick  HD
CAIN Herbert  110 Collier Crescent  Brunswick Railway employee

1954
CAIN Ellen Eva  110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West  HD
CAIN Herbert  110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West Railway employee
CAIN Mervyn 110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West 


Cando 

This is incredible i have to thank all you people for your help  if only Albert's army records were not on breuckners   they have taken it all down now  or i just cant find it     i will have to let my cousin know i just can't thank you people enough  Bubs
 

[cando]

Bubs Albert CAIN's digitised WW1 service record is on http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

I thought you had a copy of his service files.

Can you please answer our questions about Albert's death certificate.

I have sent you a pm

Cando 

[cando]

A little more...Mary GRAHAM had two more daughters...there could be more    Second husband was George McCLACY and spelling variations thereof   I cannot find a marriage registration and any birth registrations for the following.

Deaths - born c 1874 -
PERRY Mary Ellen
Father McCLACY George  Mother Mary  GRAHAM
At Williamstown  77 years  1951  Reg#2655

and her marriage

McCLUCY Mary Ellen born Geelong
PERRY George born Williamstown
1893  Reg#6382

Death
Born c1875
MATTHEWS Margaret Linda
Father McCLUEY George  Mother Mary  GRAHAM
At South Melbourne  75 years  1950  Reg#9501

and her marriage

McCLUEY Margaret Linda born Geelong
MATTHEWS Alfred John born Port Melbourne
1901  Reg#6674

If you decide to purchase any certificates could you please type up all the information here.  I am sure many of us would like to see the information on Albert's and Bridget's death certificates.

Cheers
Cando