Albert Edward CAIN

[Essie]

Debra

I sent a PM to Bubs with records of the Aunts marriages and death.

The birthplace of Caroline DAVIS/BARTLETT nee CAIN was Geelong on both marriage records.
No births listed on the VIC cd to Thomas CAIN and Mary GRAHAM.

Essie

[Dundee]

Thanks Essie.  I do see that the children in the death notice match Caroline CAIN's children with Edward DAVIS and Arthur BARTLETT.  I think Edie may have been born before Caroline married.

It doesn't seem to get us any further though with finding a birth for Albert! 

Debra 

[cando]

I am looking for Albert Edward Cain bornn 8th july 1896 or 1899

Bubs

he was born to  James Cain and Maria Augustus Cain

Bubs

Birth in Victoria
CAIN Albert Edward
Father James  Mother Maria BUERCKNEL   [Should be BUERCKNER]
At Katamatite  1898  Reg#4151

Cando

Isn't this correct?  People often state name the place where they were raised as their place of birth.  Perhaps I am missing something as I haven't read all the thread thoroughly.

Cando

[Dundee]

Cando I think we have established that this was not the right Albert.  Bubs' Albert was just 'Albert', not 'Albert Edward'.  This Albert Edward that we were looking at earlier married in NSW, had a family and is buried there with his wife.

Debra 

[majm]

Albert s number was 3259A and   in the book it says he was buried in Rookwood  cemetery died 1946 

May I please ask where the number 3259A is recorded.   I ask this because on NSW BDM death certs for the era up to around 1955, when a chap who had served during WWI died (in NSW) THEN his AIF number would be stamped on the NSW BDM registrar's ledgers...  Then when NSW BDM issues an historic certificate that AIF number can be found on the upper left hand corner of their certificate.... 

NSW BDM dcs also show the burial/cremation details, as well as the cause of death details, and of course the family details.

Cheers,  JM

[Essie]

Cando

Bub's 'Albert CAIN'  died 1946.

This is Albert Edward CAIN.
4112/1962 
CAIN  ALBERT EDWARD 
Parents: JAMES &  MARIA AUGUSTA 
at COOLAMON 

Essie 

[Dundee]

JM, I have included a link to Albert's service record (3259A) in my reply #25.

Bubs quoted this service number to help us identify which Albert was hers.  We were looking at the wrong one earlier.

Debra 

[cando]

Marriage in Vic
BUERCKNER Augusta Maria born Germantown
CAIN James born Moonee Ponds
1882  Reg#1079

Death in NSW
10270/1910    
CAIN Maria A
Father Charles W  Mother Augusta M
District Narrandera

There was an inquest in her death. She was found deceased but no evidence as to cause of death.  Died district of Coolamon born Germantown, Vic.

I can't find Maria Augusta's birth but regs for her siblings at Germantown - father noted as Carl Wilhelm and mother Auguste Dorothea Sophie KAATZ.  Auguste died in 1863 and was born Prussia. I can't find a 2nd marriage for Carl Wilhelm but there are many births to a Charles William CAIN and Martha PARISH in the same area.

Cando

[majm]

Agh,  so may I presume that Bubs book has already demonstrated that the AIF chap 3529A who enlisted July 1915, Melbourne is definitely the right chap ?

Does that mean the 1946 death registered Rozelle, NSW is NOT the right chap ? 

Cheers, JM