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Wahlers....obituary help
« on: Saturday 13 October 12 11:51 BST (UK) »
Hello

I wonder if someone can help clarify two differing obituary reports following the death of Charles Ernest Wahlers on 16.9.1920? He was born 20.3.1872 in Liverpool England.

one paper records "leaves a widow, son and 2 daughters"........another "leaves a widow, two sons and 3 daughters"...

my research shows children as ....Charles James Eric, born 4.1.1897, Herbert Ernest born 15.1.1898, Florence Dorothy May, born 1905 and possibly Harold Gordon, born 1907.

Thanks for any help.

Alan Wahlers
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Re: Wahlers....obituary help
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 October 12 19:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Alan

NZ BDM's has 4 children

1897/1710 Wahlers  Charles James Eric / Lily/ Charles Ernest
1898/18591 Wahlers  Herbert Ernest  /Lily/ Charles Ernest
1905/16633 Wahlers  Florence Dorothy May / Lily/ Charles Ernest
1907/1420 Wahlers  Harold Gordon/  Lily/ Charles Ernest

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Re: Wahlers....obituary help
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 October 12 19:43 BST (UK) »
There is a probate for Charles at Wellington Archives

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23085380

This may tell you who all the children were


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Re: Wahlers....obituary help
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 October 12 23:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Janette

Thanks for the two replies.......seems to confirm my info........means both obituary reports apparently incorrect though......

Interested to find the probate details being at Wellington Archives....looked these up but only available by personal visit it seems.....a reason to visit NZ again!.......unfortunately the rise in the value of the NZ dollar makes this unlikely in the near future I am sad to say......

As an aside I understand that Harold Gordon Wahlers was batman to General Kippenberger during the WW2.........I have tried to verify this but not found detail info that does so.....he returned to the UK in 1946 after the War ended.......still searching though.....

Best wishes

Alan
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Re: Wahlers....obituary help
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 October 12 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Awahl,

You could begin a new post asking for someone to request to have the probate digitised for you. You could then download the document from Archives.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Wahlers....obituary help
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 October 12 02:10 BST (UK) »
'The Evening Post' dated 17.9.1920 has the death notice of Charles Ernest Wahlers, @ New Plymouth-
"dearly loved husband of Lily Wahlers, aged 48 years".

Same newspaper, dated 5.1.1897 has a birth notice for a son, born 4.1.1897.

From "Paperspast"..........

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Wahlers....obituary help
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 October 12 02:22 BST (UK) »
Charles is buried at TE HENUI cemetery in New Plymouth,

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0mbx/


Lily's ashes are interred there also

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0mbx/

she was cremated at Karori

http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/details.php?id=17689&Service=Cremation

and son  Charles James  Eric is buried in Karori also

http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/details.php?id=92657&Service=Burial

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Re: Wahlers....obituary help
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 October 12 02:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Snap Janette ..... was just going to post that info.

Herbert Ernest Wahlers buried at Purewa died 21 Jul 1966


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Re: Wahlers....obituary help
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 October 12 02:32 BST (UK) »
Herbert's wife Ethel May is also buried at Purewa.


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