McGrath Family New Zealand

[majm]

NSW BDM has a birth for a Sarah Jane OAKMAN, to Thomas and Sarah, registered Wagga in 1874. (#20488).  There are other children to Thomas and Sarah registered in the Wagga district.

NSW BDM has a birth registration for Alice McGRATH, daughter of Maurice and Sarah J, registered Adelong in 1894. (#3419).  That birth registration should include details about her parents, including their places of birth, their then ages and their usual address at that time.




Cheers,  JM

[majm]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/142814230  Daily Advertiser 30 Sept 1929
Funeral for Mr T OAKMAN, one of the oldest residents of Humula.  The widow and all the children were present at the graveside.  Their names are all mentioned, including Mrs W McGrath.  I suspect a printer’s error on the W, being inverted M. 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/104074442  Wagga Advertiser 12 May 1904
Funeral of Mrs Elizabeth OAKMAN, widow of James and mother of Thomas OAKMAN of Humula. Names of family members are mentioned

Cheers,  JM

[Lucy2]

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=546609.0   
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I would expect the transcription should have included the names of the witnesses.   Perhaps it was not a full transcription.   

Fingers crossed.

Cheers,  JM

Thread on Australian board mentioned previously in Reply # 118.

The witnesses names are shown on the Marriage transcription (Edward Oakman / Emma Jane OAKMAN).

[Lucy2]

Comment:

A gentle plea if I may ?   

Owing to the length and complexity of this thread, can we please restrict postings to those which revolve around the search for members of the McGRATH family only.   [OAKMAN family details can be found in numerous online trees and message board posts. ]

Thanks.

   ~  Lu   

[majm]

Comment:

A gentle plea if I may ?   

Owing to the length and complexity of this thread, can we please restrict postings to those which revolve around the search for members of the McGRATH family only.   [OAKMAN family details can be found in numerous online trees and message board posts. ]

Thanks.

   ~  Lu   

Thank you for your comment,  I have only mentioned OAKMAN where I can also find McGRATH mentioned.    I had already appreciated that the main focus is on McGRATH. 

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Sandy has a current thread on the Aussie Board re Frank ROGERS, husband of Margaret Beatrice McGRATH.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=700088.0

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

My suggestion would be that you start a new topic on the AUS board along the lines of "seeking historic Presbyterian marriage records" (the folk on the board there will be able to give you assistance I'm sure.) 

Although Maurice's marriage possibly took place at a private residence (Simmons Street, Wagga Wagga), the officiating minister was the Rev. J. MacINTYRE.

An 1890 newspaper reference (at TROVE) shows that Rev. J. (John ?) MacINTYRE was the incumbant at St. Andrews Presbyterian Church, Wagga.

No need to start a new topic, here's a good place to make some enquiries about the McGRATH-OAKMAN marriage.

"Presbyterians : Ferguson Memorial Library, 168 Chalmers St, SURRY HILLS  BUT they can provide no additional information for marriages performed by Reverend Fullerton."

It was not at all unusual for rural marriage ceremonies to be performed in private residences in NSW in the mid to late 19th Century.

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Perhaps a sidetrack,  or perhaps something that has already been eliminated, but here’s the surname TURNER for a Margaret McGRATH upon her marriage.  Even today quite a few with the surname McGrath in Wagga and surrounding district. 

Francis TURNER married Margaret McGRATH 12 May 1890 at St Michaels, Roman Catholic rites, Wagga. 
Francis’ parents given as John TURNER and Bridget HERBERT
Margaret’s parents given as Bernard McGRATH and Anne LONG.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTC2-5BF


NSW BDM ref #7231

Cheers,  JM

[Lucy2]

I found a Trove doc -  New South Wales, Australia, Government Gazettes, 1853-1899 for Miss Margaret McGrath retiring from the Public Service Board as a teacher in 1899. She was teaching at Rhine Falls Public School out near the Snowy Mountains.  This may not be our Margaret Ann (Beatrice) McGrath but I have made a few assumptions.

Hi Sandy - have just spotted your similar thread on the AUS board, but will add here, my earlier thoughts . 

TROVE offers up just a few articles re: "Miss Margaret McGRATH - teacher."

My thoughts were that they all perhaps referred the same woman ?

"Sydney Morning Herald" - 20 May 1882 - p. 7  ... posted to Provisional School at Bowman's Creek [nearest populous place, Muswellbrook ?]

"SMH" - 9 April 1885 -p. 4 .... Provisional School at Brook's Creek. [Additional item same paper on 6 May 1885 - page 7 ... new public schools - Brook's Creek near Bungendore.

"SMH" - 22 February 1888 - ... to Provisional school at Monaro [formerly spelled as "Manaro" - location southern NSW, east of Snowy Mountains.]

[Note:  All above would be too early for your Margaret ? ]

"Evening News" (NSW) - 28 February 1891 - p. 2 ... to Provisional School at Stony Pinch. [Location - about 190kms N/W of Sydney - nearest most populous place is Meriwa - 34 kms away.]

1899 - Retirement from Rhine Falls Public School.

  ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Sandy and Julie

This is just my "take" on the make-up of the family of Peter McGRATH and Margaret (nee TURNER -- a.k.a. Matilda McCOY).

We have already established I think that Maurice B. 1866 at Hokitika was their first-born ?

Next I'd probably place John McGRATH (the son who gave testimony to his father's character in Court case April 1885)  [Still haven't found a NZ birth registration and I'm still sifting through the John's who appear in the Canterbury Archdiocese Baptism records. ]

Daughter (name not known) ... prob. born between 1867 and 1872 (before the son Thomas).
[Again, no NZ birth registration found.  Have checked Canterbury / Westland district RC baptisms and been able to eliminate all but a "Georgina Maria McGRATH" -bapt. Christchurch Cathedral 13 April 1868.  Have found no further info in NZ / Os for this girl. ]

[[Note:   My thoughts are that this mystery McGRATH daughter, may have been the one who was said to be in the convent in 1888 ?    With the youngest children Margaret Anne (M. Beatrice) and Peter Stephen, more likely to have been in the custody of their widowed mother ?? ]]

  ~  Lu