McGrath Family New Zealand

[Juliannet]

Thanks Lu, on two accounts. One: Thank you for sharing your ancestry find with us, what a great out out come for you! Two: Thank you for paying forward the help you received as a result of this find to us. It does not go unnoticed that your research for the McGrath family is due to your own personal an inner fortitude to assist and help others. Pay it forward comes to mind. I am an advocate of this model, and pay it forward I shall :-)

I dropped into this thread because it held names relevant to my search, I had no idea I was going to meet wonderful people such as yourself and Sandy. I'm humble and very grateful.

Warm regards
Julie

[Juliannet]

Lu, I have no idea where I came to the Glebe conclusion. I'm searching through my references now and will get back to you.

Julie

[Juliannet]

Hi Sandy & Lu,

Transcript of Maurice McGrath's second marriage just arrived.
Maurice was remarried at the age of 70 to Frances Burgess a spinster of 62 years of age, after divorcing Sarah Oakman.
What a shock, I didn't see that coming!

More importantly, Maurice didn't include any mother or father on his marriage certificate to Sarah, but he has on his marriage to Francis (attached)
His father is recorded as a contractor - Peter McGrath
His mother as Margaret Adams.

This fits with Sandy's quest to find Margaret Adams I think?

Does this mean Margaret remarried an Adams after Peters death.
Remembering that Peter & Margaret's first born was Maurice who was only 19 when his father Peter died. Could mean that the marriage certificates for all their younger children would read mothers name as Adams.

Getting exciting now

Warm Regards
Julie

[Lucy2]

Hi Julie

Well, well, well,  ... that is a surprise. 

But of course he wasn't divorced from Sarah (he was her widower - she died about 1930 didn't she ?)

Which means that he'd had a second marriage (after Sarah's death) ... and that the marriage to Frances BURGESS in 1937, was in fact his third.   

  ~ Lu

[Lucy2]

Have found this marriage ?

NSW Marriages

McGRATH - Maurice
DAVIES - Annie

Year:   1932
Registration # :   15511
Place:   Culcairn*, NSW

[*  Culcairn is between Albury and Wagga Wagga ... and given he lived with Sarah at or near Wagga, I'd guess at the above being his second marriage ? ]

No need though to obtain a transcript of this second marriage, ideally a copy of marriage record should be on file with the Divorce papers.       See next   >>

   ~  Lu
     

[Lucy2]

This is the only Maurice McGRATH divorce I could see on the NSW State records website.

#   974 / 1936

Divorce Papers

Maurice MCGRATH - Annie McGRATH
Start:   8 June 1936
End:     7 October 1937

[Note:   As Maurice's name appears first, I should think that he was the Petitioner ... which fits with what is recorded on his marriage to Frances BURGESS.    Their marriage date 27 October 1937, also is just a few weeks after the Decree Absolute (in the Divorce) was apparently handed down. ]

Hopefully this link will take you to the info page >

http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item1155693

   ~  Lu

Edit:   see next   >

[Lucy2]

Hi Julie

Try this to locate Divorce file >

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/

Scroll down to "DIVORCE" ... search using the "Archives Investigator".

I'm not familiar with accessing NSW Divorce records so will leave you to do the reading meantime.
I'm heading out of town for the day, but hopefully will get back to this thread tomorrow. 

   ~  Lu   

[Juliannet]

Thanks Lu, you are amazing!

I didn't give a marriage in the middle, between Sarah and Frances a passing thought. I spent some time looking for divorce info for Sarah and Maurice. I really need more experience at family research  However I have a great teacher 

Warm Regards
Julie

[Juliannet]

Hi Ladies,

I have just been doing some figures in relation to Peter Stephens arrest document.
It notes Margaret lived with her son and daughter in 1888, and there are 4 other children in the family, 3 working and 1 in a convent.

Maurice would have been aged 22 = working and Margaret lives with him or John
John I know nothing about & no assumption is necessary for this thread = working
Also an unknown daughter I'll assume to be 21 = working and Margaret lives with her
Margaret Jnr 13 years = Assuming she is the youngest daughter, it leaves her as the child in the convent, otherwise her sister above.
Peter Jnr 11 years = child arrested
Thomas died 1885 not long after his father Peter but before his brother Peters arrest, and as a result he is not noted on the arrest document.
This accounts for all 5 children; the child arrested and the other 4 noted on the arrest document.

The Sydney Sands directory has McGraths listed in 1890 as follows
John McGrath: 2 x carpenters, 50 Pine & 145 Campbell Sts; 1 hotel owner, 81 Dowling St; 2 x tobacconist, 80 MacArthur St Ultimo & 689 George St; 1 van proprietor, Ebley St Waverley; 1 with no occupation, 129 Castlereagh St.
M. McGrath: van proprietor 30 Marlborough St,
Margaret McGrath Mrs: greengrocer 112 Bay St Glebe (I suspect this is where I got Glebe as a possible address for Margaret Snr) Lives alone in 1891 NSW Census
McGrath Miss: dressmaker 8 Susan St Newton

Any thoughts?

Warm Regards
Julie