McGrath Family New Zealand

[Lucy2]

Matilda "McCLOY" :

Incidentally the surname of Matilda was actually McCOY as is shown on the New Zealand Marriage Index.   

*  Did I see on Ancestry (maybe) a copy of this 1866 marriage cert. (McGRATH / McCoy) posted to a family tree (Not sure if perhaps it's yours ? )

   ~  Lu 

[Juliannet]

As requested information from the Australian RootsChat site

Hi Sandy,
Sorry for the long delay.
I have the the NSW death certificate for Peter McGrath. 1885/001260
Died 16th June 1885 St Vincents Hospital, a  contractor, aged 47 years. Father Maurice a farmer.  Certified by his son Maurice McGrath. Roman Catholic buried at Rookwood. Born Waterford Ireland. Time in Australia 1 year. Married in Hokitika to Margaret Adams 1860. Children of marriage 4 males and 2 females.

Although I believe Peters son Maurice (my great grandfather) either made a mistake about his mother Margaret's last name 'Adams' (should read Turner) or Peter remarried a Margaret Adams. I know very little was known about Peter and his family, indeed my father knew zero.
I can confirm that when Peter McGrath & the widow Matilda McCloy formally Turner where married in April 1866 at Hokitika they were already expecting baby Maurice, born 25 Nov 1866.
Warm Regards Julie

[Juliannet]

Just wonderful, finally these ancestors dancing around us are coming together. This is great news for Sandy's search. I'm happy to be able to plug in John McGrath now, thanks, I look forward to what you post. Also I believe you have found Peter & Matilda's marriage certificate on my ancestry profile (my bad - wrong spelling)

Also there are no ages of children on Peter McGrath death certificate

[Lucy2]

Hi Julie

Yes, it's not unexpected to get conflicting information from a range of certificates - particularly from death certificates.

I do have much more to add here re: Peter McGRATH (Maurice's father) ... and can give you information for his family, but will leave that till later.

*   Do you have a copy of Maurice's Marriage Certificate (to Sarah OAKMAN -was it ? ).
Interested to know what details he gave in respect of his mother, especially ?     And also to know who the witnesses to the marriage were (maybe they were family members ?).

  ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Ooops ... our posts just crossed ... but thanks for the confirmation previously given.   

Yes, have lots to add ... but I've got a cranky, misbehaving computer at the moment so it could be slow going.    Just bear with me.   

   ~  Lu

[Juliannet]

I do have much more to add here re: Peter McGRATH (Maurice's father) ... and can give you information for his family, but will leave that till later. Really excited about this statement :-)

*   Do you have a copy of Maurice's Marriage Certificate (to Sarah OAKMAN -was it ? ).
Interested to know what details he gave in respect of his mother, especially ?     And also to know who the witnesses to the marriage were (maybe they were family members ?). I thought I did, but no - I'm ordering it now!

  ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Julie   ... did you know about the transcription service (offered by several agents) for NSW B, D and M. certificates ?      It's an awful lot cheaper than purchasing the actual certificates.
Details are available on the NSW BDM website.  [I've used one of the agents (the last-named one on the list) on a number of occasions to help track down my AUS rellies in the past and have been well pleased with the service offered.    You also get a more immediate result with the transcriptions able to be emailed to you. ]   ]   

   ~  Lu

[Juliannet]

Hi Julie   ... did you know about the transcription service (offered by several agents) for NSW B, D and M. certificates ?   

Thanks Lu, I owe you one :-)

[sandy feet]

Hello Julie & Lucy, Thankyou so much for all the research you are doing. I have been meaning to get back on the search for some time and you have delivered the inspiration. Julie requested a copy of the Baptism of Margaret ( Mrs Peter McGrath) McGrath which i am about to email but thought i would put the info down in a post. This was an adult Baptism. It appears Margaret was converted from another denomination when she married Peter McGrath. The baptism took place on Friday the 14th of Dec 1877 in the parish of Rangiora, South island, New Zealand. the doc stats she was born 1st of Jan 1800 but i was advised that this was a generic date used when age was not given. Margaret was obviously not 77 at the time. I haven't had time to get my head around all the new info but i did notice that one of her childrens name was Margaret Anne Mcgrath and Lucy you said you believe this was my great great grandmother Margaret Beatrice . Why would she have changed her middle name? was this common? Thanks again Sandy