McGrath Family New Zealand

[Lucy2]

Hello Juliannet

I have some more information to contribute to this thread.   
Please just bear with me (for a short time) whilst I "dig it up" ... and read through and refresh my memory.   

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Julie

Am assuming that you have the NSW death certificate for young Thomas McGRATH ?

Are you able to add here please, further details ?

e.g.

* Mother's maiden name

* Years in NSW (for Thomas)

* Informant to death

* Place of death (if it is other than the Weymss Street address)

etc. etc.

[Please just post "transcribed" info from cert. (as posting full image of actual cert. contravenes rules of this forum. ]     Thanks.

  ~  Lu

[Juliannet]

Hi Julie

Am assuming that you have the NSW death certificate for young Thomas McGRATH ?

Are you able to add here please, further details ?

e.g.

* Mother's maiden name

* Years in NSW (for Thomas)

* Informant to death

* Place of death (if it is other than the Weymss Street address)

Registration Number: 1945/019786
Date & Place of Death: 1945 14th June - District Hospital Parramatta - late of 297 Holbeche Road Blacktown - Blacktown Shire.
Name & Occupation: MAURICE MCGRATH - Dealer
Sex & Age: Male 78 years
Cause of death (a) Congestive cardiac failure (b) Hypertension
Duration of last illness: --------
Medical attendant: Elizabeth M Fisher (Registered)
When he last saw deceased: 13th June 1945
Name & Occupation of father: Maurice McGrath - not known (I think this is incorrect, it appears that Edith knew little about her fathers past, which fits with my own fathers lack of information about this side of the family. Dad always said. "We know nothing about Mums dad, we reckon he was a black fella!")
Name & maiden surname of mother: - not known
Informant: Certified by Edith Hill - Daughter - 314 Parramatta Road Stanmore
Particulars of registration: 12th July 1945 - Parramatta
When & where buried; name of undertaker: 1945 15th July - Church of England Cemetery Prospect -C.J. Innes of the firm Charles Innes & Son
Where born and how long in Australian Colonies or States: New Zealand
Place of marriage, age, and to whom: Humula N.S.W. - Not Known - Sarah Oakman - Widower
Children of marriage:
Alice 51 (my grandmother); Edward 49; Edith 46; Peter 44; Roy 41; Clement 39; Vera 36; May 34; Alfred 32; Bert 30; living. Two males deceased (I know one was named Maurice DOB 1896, died in WW1 30 March 1918 - France)

[Lucy2]

Hi Julie

Thanks for the information regarding Maurice McGRATH.

  *   What I was actually meaning, was can you supply further details from the death certificate of young Thomas McGRATH, please ?    

[I feel that any info we can get for this McGRATH family might be helpful. ]

Cheers
    ~  Lu   

[Lucy2]

PS :     I have just added a post to Sandy's "Margaret ROGERS (McGRATH)" thread on the Australian board. 

[Lucy2]

Hi Sandy,

I have located the death certificates for Peter, Matilda & Maurice McGrath.
They will take 4 weeks to be received by me from the BDM NSW.
I'll let you know the outcome.

   Type      Registration Number      Name(s)
   1      Certificate      1260/1885      PETER MCGRATH
   2      Certificate      1216/1882      MATILDA MCGRATH
   3      Certificate      19786/1945      MAURICE MCGRATH

Unfortunately the Matilda McGRATH death in 1882 is not related to the Peter McGRATH family.

[Above Matilda McGRATH died on 16 June 1882, aged 25 years, of Surry Hills, Sydney, was the wife of a Frederick McGRATH (and the daughter of Henry and Matilda BOURNE) ]

[Juliannet]

Sorry Lucy, I don't have Thomas's death certificate only his brother Maurice s.

However I have found police records regarding Peter Stephen McGrath (Jnr) at the age of ten in Sydney. He was arrested for break, enter & steal on 31st October 1888. Police report says Mother Margaret was widowed living on £2 a week with her son and daughter.

The report also states there are FOUR (4) other children in the family, three working and one in a convent.

Peter Seniors death certificate says he had 6 children - 4 male & 2 female (no deaths).
I have located 3 sons Maurice, Thomas and Peter.
I located the baptism certificate for 1 daughter, Margaret Ann McGrath (Jnr) this week.
Thus 1 female & 1 male are yet to be found.

The report goes on to say the mother was of doubtful character as she had been arrested by the police previously. The boy was constantly in the streets and sleeping out at night, he is recorded as having a speech impediment and rather backward at school (Sacred Heart), he was Roman Catholic. He didn't like living at home because he had too much to do.

He was sent to work on a dairy farm and deserted at age 16, was sent back again and released 9th March 1894, Peter died in Liverpool 1946. I have not yet found what he did in the years between.

[Juliannet]

   2      Certificate      1216/1882      MATILDA MCGRATH

Unfortunately the Matilda McGRATH death in 1882 is not related to the Peter McGRATH family.

[Above Matilda McGRATH died on 16 June 1882, aged 25 years, of Surry Hills, Sydney, was the wife of a Frederick McGRATH (and the daughter of Henry and Matilda BOURNE) ]

Thank you I discovered this when I received her death certificate. It appears that Malitda McCloy/Turner changed her name to Margaret which has caused considerable confusion in locating her and her children and indeed Peter McGrath!

[Lucy2]

Hi Julie

Thanks for the additional information.

*  On the death certificate for Peter McGRATH 1885, are the ages of his children given (or is it just the male / female info.) ??

I can tell you that the other son was named John McGRATH (will add the source of that info in another post.)

I'll also add further for the child Margaret Ann(e) McGRATH [whom I believe is the person later known as Margaret Beatrice McGRATH (Mrs ROGERS) which is Sandy's interest. ]

   ~  Lu