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Thomas Hadfield death
« on: Wednesday 10 October 12 13:48 BST (UK) »
Hi,
 Could anybody please help me find a death date for Thomas Hadfield, my ggg grandfather, who died between 1851 and 1861.
    In the 1851 census he is shown as being a widowed 52 year old bricksetter living at 32 Cookson Street, New Cross, St. Philips, Manchester with his daughters Elizabeth, Emma, and his son William, he also had another daughter Ann.
    Hadfield seems to be a common name in Lancs and a search on Freecen BMD threw up loads of possibilities but without much information.
         Any help would be much appreciated, thank you, Kevan.

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Re: Thomas Hadfield death
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 October 12 14:05 BST (UK) »
LancashireBMD is incomplete but does have age at death (as per informant) for those it lists so may help with elimination:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

The LancsOPC site has some coverage for burials as does FamilySearch - burial registers often give age.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
https://www.familysearch.org/

Using these together with the list of possibles from FreeBMD may cut the list significantly - good luck!

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Re: Thomas Hadfield death
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 October 12 16:39 BST (UK) »
In 1851 - he was living in the Manchester Registration District.  If you assume he remained there - it cuts the list of possible deaths down to 4

1853 (2) - Lancs BMD show both as aged 70
1855 - Lancs BMD shows age 29
1860 - Lancs BMD shows it as an infant death

Are you certain he died pre-1861?
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Re: Thomas Hadfield death
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 October 12 16:55 BST (UK) »
Making a big assumption - that he died where he was living in 1851 (which could be a big mistake) I'm not sure which sub-district of Manchester New Cross would come under, I'd guess it could be Ancoats (which is transcribed on LancsBMD) or Ardwick or possibly Bradford, which are not.

Not all Manchester deaths have been transcribed on LancashireBMD:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/deathcov.php



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Re: Thomas Hadfield death
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 October 12 19:19 BST (UK) »
1841 he was in Ancoats - RD Manchester - aged 43

1851 also in Ancoats - RD Manchester - aged 52

Although the originating post mentions New Cross - I can't see any reference to it on either the 1851 image or transcription

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Re: Thomas Hadfield death
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 October 12 01:51 BST (UK) »
LancashireBMD is incomplete but does have age at death (as per informant) for those it lists so may help with elimination:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

The LancsOPC site has some coverage for burials as does FamilySearch - burial registers often give age.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
https://www.familysearch.org/

Using these together with the list of possibles from FreeBMD may cut the list significantly - good luck!
 
Thank you , this could be really helpful as i've never seen the Lancs BMD site before.

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Re: Thomas Hadfield death
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 October 12 01:59 BST (UK) »
In 1851 - he was living in the Manchester Registration District.  If you assume he remained there - it cuts the list of possible deaths down to 4

1853 (2) - Lancs BMD show both as aged 70
1855 - Lancs BMD shows age 29
1860 - Lancs BMD shows it as an infant death

Are you certain he died pre-1861?
 Thanks for looking at this for me, i'm now not sure he died pre 1861 because i've recently seen the 1861 census where he may be living with his daughter but the ages are unclear, but i now think it is him cos its the same address that is on my g grandmothers birth cert. Much confuselment !