HEADSTONES in Kirkcaldy Cemeteries(Part 2)

[NorrieG]

Hello Norrie,
I am looking for the McVie's and the Oswalds.  In particular, currently chasing Murray McVie born about 1841(married to David Oswald) and still alive at 1901 Census, but not visible after that.
There are many McVie's that I am interested in, mostly descendants of Barney/Barnie/Bernard McVie and I suspect many are buried in Kirkcaldy.  I am in Sydney Australia and my g grandmother Murray McDonald McVie migrated here with her sister Jemima in late 1870's.  I would appreciate anything you can help me with. My email is ^(*) Deborah.

Hi Deborah  I see in the 1851Census for Dysart Barnie McVie married Catherine Oswald
15.1.1858 in Kirkcaldy and I asume their daughter Murray age 9 is the one who
married David Oswald
1851 Census

                                                          
                                                    
Piece: SCT1851/426 Place: Dysart - Address: 66 Mid Street      
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        Surname       First name(s)       Rel       Status       Sex       Age       Occupation       Where Born       Remarks
          MCVIE         Barnie         Head         M         M         47         Shoemaker          Fife - Largo          
          MCVIE         Cathrane         Wife         M         F         40                   Fife - Kirkcaldy          
          MCVIE         James         Son         -         M         10         Scholar          Fife - Pathhead          
          MCVIE         Murray         Dau         -         F         9         Scholar          Fife - Pathhead          
          MCVIE         Alexander         Son         -         M         7         Scholar          Fife - Pathhead          
          MCVIE         Janet         Dau         -         F         5                   Fife - Pathhead          
          MCVIE         Ann         Dau         -         F         1
                  Fife - Pathhead


      
this is an inscription from Dysart Cemetery for Alexander son of Barnie & Cathrane
1489   Alexander McVie died March 1941 age 70
      wife Christian Mitchell died 7.5.1917 age 76?
      Sons Thomas & Bernard died in Infancy
      Alexander husband of Kate Clark died feb 1938 age 67
      interred at Glasgow
      daughter Ann Beveridge McVie died 5.8.1948 age 79

An inscription from Kirkcaldy Old Kirk

124   Erected by Alexander McVie in memory of his father
   Bernard McVie who died 6.3.1835 age 59
   his mother Murray McDonald died 25.4.1844 age 70
   his son Bernard died 30.3.1845 age 4 months
   son Andrew died 7.12.1852 age 19  months
   his wife Minnie Bett died 15.2.1864 age 48
   his son Alexander Malcolm died 13.6.1878? age 26
   daughter Minnie Jane 20.1.1887 age 25
   Alexander McVie died  unable to make out date of death




in the 1881 Census the family are living in Forfar Murray Oswald now a widow
David Oswald having died between 1877 & 1881 he would likely have been buried
in that area, Where was Murray Oswald in the 1901 census you state?
Dwelling:   3 Panmure St
   Census Place:   St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203475     GRO Ref    Volume 272    EnumDist 26    Page 1
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Murray OSWALD   W   38    F   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Leather Machinist
Catherine OSWALD   U   14    F   Dundee, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Dau
   Occ:   Filler At Power Loom Canvas Factory
Jane OSWALD      13    F   Dundee, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Dau
   Occ:   Scholar
Janet OSWALD      8    F   St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Dau
   Occ:   Scholar
James OSWALD      4    M   St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
Helen WEBSTER   U   47    F   Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland

I take it this is your G grandmother is the Murray & sister  Jemima in the Census below the parents being Malcolm Mc Vie and Janet Proud married 1853 Malcolm  born18.4.1816 parents being
Barnie McVie died 6.3.1835 age 53 & Murray McDonald who died 25.4.1844 age 70
1881 Census
Dwelling:   313 High Street 2nd Flat
   Census Place:   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203526     GRO Ref    Volume 442    EnumDist 7    Page 1
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Malcolm MC VIE   M   65    M   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Shoemaker
Murray MC VIE   U   19    F   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Factory Worker Weaver
Jemima MC VIE   U   16    F   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland

Alexander McVie  born 15.2.1807 Largo is Malcolms brother
 
1881 census Dwelling:   3 Mary Hall Street
   Census Place:   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland
         Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Alexr. MC VIE   W   74    M   Largo, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Shoemaker
Janet Tod MC VIE   U   34    F   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Housekeeper
Murray MC VIE   U   27    F   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Shop Assistant
Minnie Jane MC VIE   U   19    F   Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland

Norrie

[dmonaghan]

Hi Norrie,
With the first inscription you have here of Alexander, son of Barnie and Cathrane 1489 - we have him being born in 1843 which would make him much older than 70 in 1941?  Do you think the interpretation of the inscription is incorrect?  (Don't want you to be making special trips- just in case you have the photo or source)

[NorrieG]

Hi Norrie,
With the first inscription you have here of Alexander, son of Barnie and Cathrane 1489 - we have him being born in 1843 which would make him much older than 70 in 1941?  Do you think the interpretation of the inscription is incorrect?  (Don't want you to be making special trips- just in case you have the photo or source)

Hi Deborah   yes your right I got it wrong it should be 1914 not 1941 ( I'am getting Old )
1489   Alexander McVie died 11 March 1914age 70
      wife Christian Mitchell died 7.5.1917 age 76?
      Sons Thomas & Bernard died in Infancy
      Alexander husband of Kate Clark died feb 1938 age 67
      interred at Glasgow
      daughter Ann Beveridge McVie died 5.8.1948 age 79

there was another Headstone in Kirkcaldy Old Kirk Cemetery 124  next to the stone I posted
it was more of the same family this Alexander McVie was the brother of Barnie McVie

124   Erected by Alexander McVie in memory of his father
   Bernard McVie who died 6.3.1835 age 59
   his mother Murray McDonald died 25.4.1844 age 70
   his son Bernard died 30.3.1845 age 4 months
   son Andrew died 7.12.1852 age 19  months
   his wife Minnie Bett died 15.2.1864 age 48
   his son Alexander Malcolm died 13.6.1878? age 26
   daughter Minnie Jane 20.1.1887 age 25
   Alexander McVie died  5.10.1888 age 81


125   To the memory of John McVie who died 8.1.1925 in his 66th year
   also Janet Tod eldest daughter of the late Alexander McVie
   who died 17.12.1928 age 83
   The reward of self sacrifice is the crown of life
   Murray second daughter of the above died 23.12.1922 in her 80th year
this is the family

Piece: SCT1851/442 Place: Kirkcaldy -Fife Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Kirkcaldy          
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        Surname       First name(s)       Rel       Status       Sex       Age       Occupation       Where Born       Remarks   
          MCVIE         Alexander         Head         M         M         44         Master Shoemaker          Fife - Largo          Employing 4 men & 3 appren     
          MCVIE         Minnie        Wife         M         F         38         -          Fife - Auchtermuchty               
          MCVIE         Janet G         Dau         -         F         4         -          Fife - Kirkcaldy               
          MCVIE         Alexander M         Son         -         M         2         -          Fife - Kirkcaldy         


Alexander McVie & Minnie Bett married 15.1.1844 Kirkcaldy

Children
Janet Tod 12.8.1846
Alexander Malcolm 28.8.1848
Andrew 15.4.1851
Murray 27.6..1853
John 2.2.1858
Minnie Jane 2.6.1861

Norrie

[NorrieG]

Photograph 125  from Kirkcaldy Old Kirk

Norrie

[dmonaghan]

What a wonderful gift this is.  I am so grateful to you for finding these and for taking the time to help.  It is much appreciated and I am amazed - it took me many hours to tease out the various branches of the family and your research has helped enormously.  I trust that I can help others as you have helped me.  Regards Deborah

[smudwhisk]

Hi Norrie

Just wondering if you have anything please on a Charles Gray McNab who is listed in the Death Indexes as dying in 1965 in Kirkcaldy?  He was born in 1879 and his wife, in 1911 anyway, was Nelly McVey? Fitzpatrick (the 1908 marriage entry isn't very clear).

Many thanks

Nicola

[NorrieG]

Hi Norrie

Just wondering if you have anything please on a Charles Gray McNab who is listed in the Death Indexes as dying in 1965 in Kirkcaldy?  He was born in 1879 and his wife, in 1911 anyway, was Nelly McVey? Fitzpatrick (the 1908 marriage entry isn't very clear).


  Hi Nicola sorry nothing in my index for the Charles, the 1881 census shows he was
born Dundee Forfar so no family connections in the Kirkcaldy

Norrie

[smudwhisk]

Hi Norrie

Thanks for looking.  Yes he was born Dundee, although his maternal great great grandfather was born in Fife (Craigie) but the family had been in Dundee since about 1796.  He definitely was living in Kirkcaldy in the 1960s and probably earlier because I've now found the death certificate of his unmarried sister Ann(ie) George McNab who died in Newport on Tay in 1963 but of whom he was the informant which gives an address in Kirkcaldy.  His father and brother both died in Cupar (his mother died in Dundee), the former I have the death certificate for (again Charles Gray McNab was the informant with an address in Kirkcaldy in 1929), the latter is in 1983 so too late for online records.

Thanks again.

Nicola

[JDB307]

Hello Norrie,

It's been a while since I last contacted you and I wonder if you can help me again.  Can you tell me please if you have any stones for Adamson in Hayfield Cemetery?

Kind regards, Jack