HEADSTONES in Kirkcaldy Cemeteries(Part 2)

[NorrieG]

Hi Sheila   this is a site worth Checking out its a sct-fife rootsweb archives re Skinner

info from it http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=SCT-FIFE
insert John Skinner in body  and press search

From: "Shirley & Neville Pedersen" <nevped@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: SKINNER, Dysart, 1871 Deaths
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:50:26 +1300

Dear Dan and Vicki

Here's the sad story :

1871 DEATHS in the District of Dysart in the County of Fife:

p.2, No. 6 : On 7 January 1871 at St Clairtown, Dysart, John SKINNER, Linen Weaver, widower of Margaret PAUL, aged 71 yrs, s/of James Skinner, linen weaver, and Ann Skinner m.s. Cree (both deceased), of typhus fever 2 wks, not cert. Infmt: John Skinner, grandson, present

p.3, No. 7 : On 10 January 1871 at St Clairtown, Dysart, John SKINNER, Tenter in Linen Factory, married to Janet LOGAN, aged 49 yrs, s/of John Skinner, linen weaver, and Margaret Skinner m.s. Paul (both dec), of typhus fever 8 wks, not cert. Infmt: John Skinner, son, present

p.4, No. 11 : On 17 January 1871 at St Clairtown, Dysart, Janet SKINNER, widow of John Skinner, Tenter in Linen Factory, aged 46 yrs, dr/of Joseph LOGAN, linen weaver, and Eliza Logan, m.s. WISHART (both dec), of typhus fever, 21 days, cert. Infmt: John Skinner, son, present

These certs confirm that John Skinner Snr was the son of James Skinner & Anne Cree, and that John Jnr was the brother of Vicki's William and Dan's Ann.
 
I don't think that John & Janet would be buried in Falkland it was much later that John came to Falkland. I think it would have been Ravenscraig Cemetery where Joseph 1850 daughter Euphemia
was buried in 1901 there could still have been room in the grave of her grandparents

Headstones in Falkland Skinner
57    John SKINNER died 1924 age 76
Elizabeth WEIR died 1935
Daughter Betsy SKINNER died 1961 age 85
Dwelling:    15 Lorne Place
  1881  Census Place:    Dysart, Fife, Scotland
    Source:    FHL Film 0203522     GRO Ref    Volume 426    EnumDist 11   
Page 4
    Marr    Age    Sex    Birthplace
John SKINNER    M    35     M    Strathmiglo, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Head died 1924
    Occ:    Manager In Linen Factory
Eliza M. SKINNER    M    33     F    Pathhead, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Wife  (Weir married 12.7.1868 Dysart ) died 1934
John SKINNER        12     M    Sinclairtown, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Son
    Occ:    Scholar
Janet SKINNER        9     F    Sinclairtown, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Daur
    Occ:    Scholar
Eliza SKINNER        7     F    Sinclairtown, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Daur
    Occ:    Scholar
Betsy SKINNER        5     F    Sinclairtown, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Daur died 1961
Henry SKINNER        2     M    Sinclairtown, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Son
Agnes SKINNER        8 m    F    Pathhead, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Daur
Jessie SKINNER        16     F    Pathhead, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Sister
    Occ:    Worker In Linen Factory
Jemima SKINNER        12     F    Pathhead, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Sister
    Occ:    Scholar

201   Erected by Jane DUNCAN Newton of Falkland
   husband John SKINNER late Farmer and Land Surveyor
   Died 3.6.1877 age 78
   Daughter Mary SKINNER died 20.6.1849 age 7
   Son Alexander SKINNER died 20.1.1873 age 34
Dwelling:    Village Of Newton
1881    Census Place:    Falkland, Fife, Scotland
    Source:    FHL Film 0203523     GRO Ref    Volume 428    EnumDist 6   
Page 1
    Marr    Age    Sex    Birthplace
Jane DUNCAN OR SKINNER    W    81     F    Falkland, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Head
    Occ:    Annuitant
Alexander SKINNER    U    67     M    Falkland, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Brother In Law
    Occ:    Weaver (Linen)
Margaret LETHANGIE    U    15     F    Leslie, Fife, Scotland
    Rel:    Grand Daur
    Occ:    Scholar
      

200   James SKINNER died 11.2.1910 age 77
   wife Janet STEWART died 27.1.1915? age 76
   daughter Isabella SKINNER died May 1949
   William KAY died 29.12.1951
   His wife Jemima SKINNER died 22.3.1967?
Dwelling:    Sorbie Coat House
1881    Census Place:    Crail, Fife, Scotland
    Source:    FHL Film 0203522     GRO Ref    Volume 425    EnumDist 3   
Page 4
    Marr    Age    Sex    Birthplace
James SKINNER    M    46     M    Falkland, Scotland
    Rel:    Head
    Occ:    Farm Servant
Janet SKINNER    M    46     F    Leslie, Scotland
    Rel:    Wife
    Occ:    Farm Servants Wife
Margaret SKINNER    U    14     F    Orwell, Scotland
    Rel:    Daur
    Occ:    Field Worker
Isabella SKINNER        12     F    Orwell, Scotland
    Rel:    Daur
    Occ:    Scholar
Jemima SKINNER        9     F    Kilconquhar, Scotland
    Rel:    Daur
    Occ:    Scholar
Christina SKINNER        6     F    Crail, Scotland
    Rel:    Daur
    Occ:    Scholar

Norrie

[Jake Drummond]

Well done Norrie!
You're far better at this than I am, having spent a few hours in Kirkcaldy trying to source Skinner info from the reference section (what a missed opportunity with the revamp eh? Just a 'money maker' cafe added and the REAL stuff hidden away; BOOKS).
Sheila has a slow 'net connection up there in Tweed so she may not have seen this yet. I think the system is steam powered!

[Sheila Dodd-Fernley]

HI Norrie, Thank you so much for the last link you gave me!! I found a couple of useful posts about the Skinner, Wishart and Welsh families!! My sister and mum will love viewing the graveyards of our kin:) I truly appreciate all the effort you and Jake have been putting in!! Thanks again Sheila

[NorrieG]

Hi Sheila  when you mentioned Skinner / Welsh connection I thought I better check
my tree and your on it. what is the chance of that.If you wish to PM your
Email  I can send you the full File later when your back in Canada

Norrie


Descendants of William Welsh


Generation No. 1

1.  WILLIAM5 WELSH  (WILLIAM4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1 WELCH) was born 1857, and died 28 October 1919 in 131 Randolph St. Buckhaven age 62.  He married MARGARET DALL 1 January 1877 in Buckhaven.  She was born 21 December 1852 in Wemyss.

Notes Williams parents William Welsh & Charlotte Gordon Williams wife Margaret was Margaret Dall
Charlotte Gordon was the daughter of my ggggrandfather born 1787 Wemyss

More About WILLIAM WELSH and MARGARET DALL:
Marriage: 1 January 1877, Buckhaven
   
Children of WILLIAM WELSH and MARGARET DALL are:
   i.   ISABELLA6 WELSH, b. 1877.
   ii.   CHARLOTTE WELSH, b. 3 September 1879, Buckhaven; d. 6 September 1879.
2.   iii.   CHARLOTTE WELSH, b. 1880, Wemyss.
3.   iv.   BERNARD WELSH, b. 24 November 1882; d. 1928, Oklohoma City USA.
   v.   ROBERT WELSH, b. 1883.
4.   vi.   MARGARET JANE WELSH, b. 24 June 1885, Buckhaven; d. 19 July 1972.
   vii.   JANET WELSH, b. 11 June 1887; d. 16 January 1964, age 76; m. JAMES WILSON, 4 October 1912, 14 Randolph St Buckhaven; b. 1884; d. 19 April 1963, age 79.

   viii.   JOHN WELSH, b. 1890.
   ix.   NELLIE WELSH, b. 1891.
   x.   JAMES WELSH, b. 1892.
5.   xi.   ROBERT DALL WELSH, b. 23 September 1894, Buckhaven.


Generation No. 2

2.  CHARLOTTE6 WELSH (WILLIAM5, WILLIAM4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1 WELCH) was born 1880 in Wemyss.  She married JOHN LAWRIE 29 December 1905 in Buckhaven, son of WILLIAM LAWRIE and BETSY WILLIAMSON.  He was born 1878 in Glasgow.

   

3.  BERNARD6 WELSH (WILLIAM5, WILLIAM4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1 WELCH) was born 24 November 1882, and died 1928 in Oklohoma City USA.  He married MARGARET BROWN SKINNER 6 June 1913 in Johnstone Square East Wemyss, daughter of JOSEPH SKINNER and EUPHEMINA STUBBLES.  She was born 1 January 1881 in East Wemyss, and died 5 December 1956 in Kirkcaldy.

Child of BERNARD WELSH and MARGARET SKINNER is:
6.   i.   EUPHEMIA STUBBLES7 WELSH, b. 10 April 1916; d. 13 June 1985, Toronto Canada.


5.  ROBERT DALL6 WELSH (WILLIAM5, WILLIAM4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1 WELCH) was born 23 September 1894 in Buckhaven.  He married ANNIE WELSH. 
   
Child of ROBERT WELSH and ANNIE WELSH is:
   i.   ELMA7 WELSH.


Generation No. 3

6.  EUPHEMIA STUBBLES7 WELSH (BERNARD6, WILLIAM5, WILLIAM4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1 WELCH) was born 10 April 1916, and died 13 June 1985 in Toronto Canada.  She married SAMUEL DODD Abt. November 1934 in Glasgow.  He died 24 May 1974 in Toronto Canada.

More About SAMUEL DODD and EUPHEMIA WELSH:
Marriage: Abt. November 1934, Glasgow
   
Children of EUPHEMIA WELSH and SAMUEL DODD are:
11.   i.   BERNARD WELSH8 DODD, b. 25 November 1934.
12.   ii.   SAMUEL HENRY DODD, b. 23 February 1936.


7.  MARGARET DALL7 CULROSS (MARGARET JANE6 WELSH, WILLIAM5, WILLIAM4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1 WELCH) was born 22 April 1908 in Kingskettle, and died 28 May 2001 in Whytemans Brae Kirkcaldy.  She married DAVID LAING 12 September 1932 in Buckhaven, son of JOHN LAING and MARGARET MORRIS. 



Generation No. 4

11.  BERNARD WELSH8 DODD (EUPHEMIA STUBBLES7 WELSH, BERNARD6, WILLIAM5, WILLIAM4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1 WELCH) was born 25 November 1934.  He married MARGARET SMITH 25 July 1970 in Toronto Canada. 

   
Children of BERNARD DODD and MARGARET SMITH are:
   i.   ANDREW9 DODD.
   ii.   JENNIFER DODD.
   iii.   KEVIN DODD.


12.  SAMUEL HENRY8 DODD (EUPHEMIA STUBBLES7 WELSH, BERNARD6, WILLIAM5, WILLIAM4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1 WELCH) was born 23 February 1936.  He married MAUREEN TERESA NOLAND 10 October 1959 in Toronto Canada.  She was born 8 August 1939 in London.

More About SAMUEL DODD and MAUREEN NOLAND:
Marriage: 10 October 1959, Toronto Canada
   
Children of SAMUEL DODD and MAUREEN NOLAND are:
   i.   SHELIA HEATHER9 DODD,
   ii.   LINDA EUPHEMIA DODD,.
   iii.   SAMUEL JANMES DODD,

[Sheila Dodd-Fernley]

Oh my gosh Norrie!! That's amazing!! Unfortunately I'm not able to come this time:( But my Mum and sister Linda are there and will be visiting with Jake tomorrow touring "our" Kin folks addresses and graves:) That is so cool that were related:) Are you related to the Kinnear side too? Thanks Cousin!! xo Sheila  Jake!! more cousins:))

[NorrieG]

Hi cousin. Sheila Yes my ggggrandfather James Harry Gordon was married to Margaret Kinner
Lots of Kinnear information I can send you later.
Norrie

[Sheila Dodd-Fernley]

Hi Cousin!! I sent an email to Jake to get your email address! I got information a few years back from a John Thompson in Fife and his wife's people are related so he sent me a Gordon file and a Kinnear file. I'll send you what I  have and you send me yours and we'll compare and see if they're the from the same source:)  So cool:)

[Jake Drummond]

Like I said "We're a' Jock Tamson's bairns"!

[Sheila Dodd-Fernley]

That's right Jake!! lol We really are:))