Cecilia Foy

[heywood]

Hi Dave,

as Marg says, there is the Westbury/Lawton marriage in 1880. In 1881.
This looks like the couple in 1881 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3VH-MSS

In 1871, Mary Ann Lawton is living with these grandparents Samuel and Maria Jacomb.

Is this the right family and if so what about Cecilia Foy?

regards
heywood

Just caught up with previous thread re Cecilia Marlow - so perhaps the Westburys are different grandparents ?

[fuseman]

Hi, I have gone completely of the track with this one, that's what you get at my age for trying to remember what you did 12 months ago, so I will start again.
From what I think I have found, Cecilia or Celia Foy was born in Galway Ireland I think in 1860 (this has come from a berth registration I found and the year seems about right) Now somewhere between 1860 and 1886 she moved to England and ended up in Walsall Staffordshire. In Walsall during 1886 she gave birth to my G Mother Emma Marlow (it was Emma who married Frederick Mentor Westbury, but not the one in the previous message but his son) On Emma's birth certificate which I have the mother is shown as Celia Marlow formally Fahy. but I can't find any marriage between a Foy or a Fahy to a Marlow, I have no idea of Mr Marlows christian name. Im at a loss with Miss Foy or Fahy so any help would be more than appriciated. Thanks

[MargP]

Hi

Could this be the baptist record for Emma

Emma Marlow 
 
Baptism 13 May 1886 St. Paul, Walsall, Stafford, England 
Birth date 03 Mar 1886 
 
Father's name Edward Marlow 
Mother's name Celia

Margp

[heywood]

I think it is the thread you have titled 'Can't find the place in Ireland' where there is information about Cecilia and family.

1891 has Edwin and Celia with children Edwin, Mary, Celia and Julia.

1901 has Edward and Cecelia with several children.

Emma is possibly the Mary shown in 1891.

I can't see a birth for Edwin but there is one for an Edward  - Dec 1883   Walsall volume 6b   pg 712

It may be worth getting that certificate to see if he has Cecilia as mother. This would help re timing of the 'marriage'.     

[fuseman]

That Baptisim looks good as Emma was born on 3/3. Thanks for that

[MargP]

On the birth certificate for Emma does it mention the fathers name and who was the informant

Margp

[fuseman]

Hi, no there is no fathers name and the informant was Celia Marlow the mother. The conclusion that I'm fast coming to is that Celia married William Naughten who then maybe died, she then remarried to Edward Marlow?. I can find no marriage of a Celia or Cecilia Naughton  or Foy  only the Naughten/Foy marriage as mentioned in a previous post, however I did see listed a death of a William Naughten during 1879 but this was in Ireland so not sure if its the same person,
This lady is a complete mystery.

[MargP]

Hi Fuseman

I was just about to post the same, I spent most of yesterday looking for a marriage with no luck, Celia's husband is not with her on the 1881 census and is shown as married, my conclusion on this, is that they split up, and she never married Edward because she was already married to William, why was the father not shown on Emma's BC, but it was on the baptist record.

I have some additional information for her  marriage to William

William Naughton to Cecilia Fahy
8 Dec 1877 St Patrick (RC) Walsall
Grooms Father John Naughton
Brides Father John Fahy
Witnesses Martin Fahy and Barbara Owen

[Tall Al]

Hi

Information removed

Alan