Harper/Dunbar/Fordyce/Stewart in Glenmuick

[ChicaJH]

Hi.  I'm looking for help finding information about the Harper/Dunbar/Fordyce and Stewart families in Glenmuick.  Thanks.  Chica

[CaroleW]

Hi

Harper - would that be James Harper b 1838 Kincardine and living in Glenmuick in 1901?

Dunbar - none in Glenmuick in 1901 so we need more details as to exactly which Dunbar family they were

Fordyce - same as Dunbar

Stewart - 73 entries for that surname in Glenmuick in 1901 so you will need to give more details

[ChicaJH]

Hello Carole and thanks so much for your response.

Yes, James Harper born in KON (I have c 1834 but that's not far off) and living in Glenmuick (died there in 1917 I believe) - must be the same one.  His parents were Archibald Harper and Margaret Greig.  James married Jane Fordyce.  Her parents were William Fordyce and Ann Randall.  No info on William and Ann died in Rothiemay I think. 

Kenneth Dunbar was born in Strathdon (parents James Dunbar and Margaret McKay), and married Elizabeth Stewart (born c 1845).  I believe the Stewart family was in the Crathie area prior to that but Elizabeth Stewart died in Glenmuick - I think (1926).  Parents perhaps William Stewart and Ann Bain.  Kenneth and Elizabeth Dunbar moved to Glenmuick sometime after 1874? and but before Elizabeth's death in 1926. 

I have no information further back than that but I do know that Kenneth Dunbar had (at least) two girls.  Margaret Dunbar and MaryAnn Dunbar.  I don't know anything about Mary Ann but Margaret was my grandmother.  She married William Harper and lived in Glenmuick from her birth till her death (1878-1956). 

I am really looking for some filler information from the 1800s for these families. I have names but a lot of the dates are blank and I would love to know anything else too.  Thanks so much.

Chica

[CaroleW]

Hi again

Can you confirm whether you already have all available census info as I don't want to duplicate.  I will just post 1901 and 1891 for James Harper for now

1901 address just shown as Fernlea Glenmuick.  Children all b Glenmuick

James Harper 63 b Kincardine O Neil, Aberdeenshire - Fruiterer & Market Gardner
William A 30
Jeannie 33
John J   26
Glenmuick ED 7 Page 5 Line 16


1891 - James St Glenmuick.  Children all b Glenmuick

James Harper 54 fruiterer b Kincardine C Neil, Aberdeenshire
Jane 57 b Rothiemay, Banffshire
Jean  23
Annie   21
William 18
John  14
Glenmuick ED 4 Page 19 Line 16

[ChicaJH]

Hi Carole:

That looks wonderful!  I'm pretty sure we have the right bunch of Harpers.  I have no formal census material, a couple of birth registers that are hard to read (James born c 1834 is what I have but yours sounds much more accurate).   It's lovely to know what some of my grandfather's siblings names were too.  Thanks so much!!!

Chica   

[CaroleW]

Keeping with the Harpers for now - I'll start with the 1841 for Kincardine O'Neill - all family b Aberdeen

Archibald Harper 45 - labourer
Margaret   40
Francis  15
John  9
Ann 7
James  4
Elizabeth 2
George   9 Months
Kincardine O'Neill ED 7 Page 4 Line 400


1851 - all children b Kincardine O'Neill

Archibald Harper 56 b Birse - wood merchant
Margaret 50 b Stonehaven
Francis 24
John 18
James 14
George   11
Robert   8
Margaret   23
Elizabeth 12
Kincardine ONeill ED 7 Page 29 Line 11

1861 - 36 Turnpike Rd Kinc O'neill - birthplaces as previous census but I can't find James at the moment

Archibald Harper 68 wood merchant
John  28
Margaret  30
George   21
Robert   18
David  8 g/son b Culter
James Smith Cowan 27 boarder b Morayshire
Kincardine ONeill ED 4 Page 21 Line 25

1871 for James & Jane - Glenmuick - all b there except were shown otherwise

James Harper 37 gardener b KON
Jane 37 b Rothiemay Banff
James Gray Harper 4
Jane 3
Annie E A 1
Margaret Farrington 25 servant
Elizabeth Smith 17 servant b KON
Glenmuick ED 3 Page 5 Line 21

[ChicaJH]

Wow!  Thanks so much Carole!!  This is a huge help.  Chica

[CaroleW]

Now for Fordyce

1841 for Rothiemay Banff - all b Banff

Will Fordyce 30 - agric labourer
Ann 35
Jane 8
Ann 3
Rothiemay ED 2 Page 7 Line 1240

In 1851 - Jane was a servant in Huntley - Aberdeen

1851 for Rothiemay - all born there

Ann Fordyce 47 shown as wife of William Fordyce but William not on census
Ann   13
Alexander   7
John 4
Rothiemay ED 2 Page 4 Line 3

1861 - looks like Ann snr reverted to her maiden name

Ann Randall 58 shirtmaker
Ann Fordyce 23 dtr
John Fordyce 14 son
Rothiemay ED 1 Page 11 Line 11

[ChicaJH]

Once again, Carole, amazing!  Thank you!  If Ann Sr. reverted back to her maiden name, does that mean there was a separation or divorce?  (I know it would be hard to tell unless there was some documentation specific to that event - would there be a record of a divorce somewhere?)

Thanks again!!!  Chica