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Land Ownership Changes
« on: Sunday 07 October 12 11:31 BST (UK) »
G'day Chatters,
Please forgive me if this has been duplicated as I tried earlier to post it.
I am seeking assistance please in following the change of ownership of a 10 acre block of land on Campbell's Creek aka Guigong Creek, out from Windeyer NSW. It was initially owned by Thomas TOWELLS, my great grandfather.
This block (Lot 106) has been indicated on the Parish maps of 1885, 1896, 1906, 1910, 1919, 1926 and 1969 for the Parish Warratra, County of Wellington Mudgee Land District,
The maps of 1885 and 1896 had my rellies name on the block. The maps of 1906, 1910 and 1919 did not. In 1926 and 1969 the Lot No was altered to 260 although on the 1969 an arrow indicated also a Lot No of 106. My rellies name was not on either of these two maps.
My Great Grandfather died in 1908.
I was hoping to follow the change of ownership and find the exact location as it is today.
Any assistance and guidance I can get will be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 October 12 01:29 BST (UK) »
Hi there

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/land_titles/online_information

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/land_titles/historical_records_online

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/land_titles/historical_research 
"You can also work forward from the first title. Early grant information and first title  information is shown on a Parish or Town map, available in the Historical Land Records Viewer (formerly known as Pixel).

You may also find some useful information in our Parish and historical maps and Public registers pages."


I was hoping to follow the change of ownership and find the exact location as it is today.

Fingers crossed, these links are of help.   

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Land Ownership Changes
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 October 12 02:40 BST (UK) »
Thank you JM for your response.
Thanks also for the information you have sent on the possible sites to look at. I will give them a go.
In the case of the Parish Map the first one I could find with any information was the 1885 one.
My Great Grandfather was in the area from about 1862 as it was here that he sent a letter back to England saying he was going to settle down. He was married in 1864 and was obviously on a selection of some kind. Is there a way of defining "that" selection please , to your knowledge?
Thanks again for your response
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 October 12 02:55 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at the NSW SRO indexes for your Thomas TOWELLS?

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

There’s a Thomas, 23, arriving on the Malvina Videl 1853 with a wife (Caroline) and a daughter Emma

"selection" in that sense seems to me to be obtaining land through the selection process under the NSW legislation of 1861 ....   (The Robertson Act)

http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/robertson-sir-john-4490

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 October 12 03:05 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 October 12 03:56 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Grevilles 1875 Directory
WINDEYER
TOWELS, Thomas, a miner at Campbell Ck

NSW ER 1878  MUDGEE
TOWELLS, Thomas, residence, Campbell’s Creek

NSW ER 1903 ROBERTSON, polling at Windeyer
TOWELLS :
Frederick, of Clarke’s Creek, a miner
Frances Agatha, of Clarke’s Creek, dd
Hannah Bella Eliza, of Long Creek, dd
John, of Long Creek, a miner
Thomas, of Campbell’s Creek, a farmer

Campbell’s Creek enrollments were mainly found at Pyramul and Upper Pyramul  in the 1903 roll.   BUT the TOWELLS were enrolled to poll at Windeyer.   

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 October 12 10:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks again JM for your response.

I have all the information on Thomas in relation to his arrival with his 1st wife a daughter Emma. Also Thomas' listing in the Mercury re his wife's desertion and the subsequent reward posted by William DANGAR for £5 for Thomas' absconding from his employment from Turanville, Scone in 1854.

The TOWELLS at Long and Clarkes Creeks were Thomas' two eldest sons and I in fact have visited the property these boys had.

As an aside tour subject, John and Fredericks property were next door to each other. One fronted Long Creek and the other fronted Clarke's Creek. The two brothers built a cottage on the boundary of these properties and had a post and rail fence which came up to the front of the cottage and then out the back continued on to far end of both properties. Weird couple apparently. Probably accounts for me :P

The son's properties were closer to Windeyer and according to the Parish Maps I have seen the father's property was further afield although roughly JUST over Campbell's Creek from the two boys.

 I will follow up on the other information that you sent me, particularly that in 1861.2 and 4.

Thanks again
Wal rebelrouser