Tole

[almostthere]

Thank you all so much for all the help.
 I have now been back on ancestry and one distant rel has placed some info  & certifications there and now I can see that Samuel's father William was a miner.

  What I was wondering is - how a boy from a poor family could end up becoming involved with the music scene in the early 1820's.  Would he have been educated at a normal school or out of hours at a sunday school. Maybe he may have been employed in one of the mills during the day.   I am wondering if somehow he could have become a apprentice for an organ making/repairs company or church.  Whether he had to be baptised to be able to do this and so the whole family was done at the same time.    just all wondering???!!! thanks again. 

[asilky]

hi mabago
another thought is neither William or Samuel seem as though they worked in mines as  children which miner children did .William also with a music background otherwise he would not have been a tuner it is a profession mainly by ear, he also was a musician on one certificate
Most certain a music background both boys .Maybe Dinah was the musician.
Where were the mines in Bradford ? or near early 1800's ?
Could William senior been in another district for the mines? He was a Labourer on William juniors marriage 1837 So maybe he had finished with the mines by then.
Both boys wrote very well so they were educated .Strange for poor miners.
Could Dinah be from a well to do family?
silky

[almostthere]

thinking, thinking,

  Can you tell from any of your certificates if Dinah was educated -  eg her signature etc that could indicate her ?status.

I think that there may have been some small coal mines near the Idle area.   So William snr was a labourer about the similiar time when Samuel was going off to Australia with his family.  all interesting    thanks so all your input - wonder if we will ever know.....

[asilky]

Hi Mabago
no Dinah wasnt educated just looked at marriage signed with an X so was Williams
I cannot fathom the Business like people from down the line in my Marshall Line and yours.Didnt have labourers at all.Although in saying that George my great uncle was a fireman..His father a business man.and his grandfather so a mystery.
Silky

[Paul E Marshall]

Hello All
Don't know if this helps? My family came from Sheffield West Riding Ecclesall.
Samuel Marshall            B 1845 -  D 1871
William Henry Marshall   B 1870     D 
Frank Earle Marshall      B 1901     D
Frank Earle Marshall      B 1929     D
Paul Earle Marshall        B 1957    Sleaford Lincolnshire. Still Kicking
If you think any of these are who you are looking for I will get some exact dates.

Regards Paul