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Looking for Lillie
« on: Saturday 06 October 12 22:04 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find more information about Lillie NACHOMOWITZ

In the US Census of 1910, Lillie is living at Ridge St, Manhattan Ward 13 in New York with her sister Dora WEINBERG and family.

Dora and Lillie are the sisters of my GGrandfather and the family are all born in Russia.  Morris (My GGrandfather) never got further than Liverpool but Lillie arrived in America in 1905 and Dora arrived later, in 1906. I have found a fair bit of information about Dora. I have a record of her arrival in the USA on the SS Haverford and know that she died in 1913.  Her husband Nathan remarried shortly after to Rose. 

However, other than the 1910 census record, I have found no information whatsoever about Lillie. I can't find anything about her arrival in America or what happens to her after 1910. I am guessing that she also travelled via England (Hull to Liverpool transmigration path) as this is what the rest of the family did - but maybe this is a flawed assumption and where I am going wrong?  I would be grateful for others to have a look and see if they can come up with anything I am missing......

Many thanks in anticipation
Viki

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Re: Looking for Lillie
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 October 12 22:21 BST (UK) »
Not wanting to rely on the spelling on the census image, what is the last name of Lillie.

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Re: Looking for Lillie
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 October 12 22:38 BST (UK) »
Hi
Her surname is Nachomowitz, although sometimes the family name is written as Nachomovitz.  Later on it was reduced by a number of members to Nachman.

My Great Grandfather and one of his brothers however went by the name of Heller(!)  They were certainly all siblings however and the different names seems to not be too untypical of Jewish families who left Eastern Eupore at the time.

Thanks for looking Genealiza

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Re: Looking for Lillie
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 October 12 03:38 BST (UK) »
Have you tried looking for her under the name of Heller?  There are several brides listed on www.italiangen.org with the name Lillian Heller for NYC.


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Re: Looking for Lillie
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 October 12 19:45 BST (UK) »
There are entries on the brides' index that Genealiza mentioned for Lillie Nachimowitz and Lillie Nachmmowitz, both in Manhattan.  One or both could be her.

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Re: Looking for Lillie
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 October 12 21:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Shellyesq

Lillie Nachimowitz married in 1913 and looks like she could be a strong possibility.  I will try to follow this one up and see what I can find out.

Thanks again
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Re: Looking for Lillie
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 19:31 BST (UK) »
You're welcome. 

Unfortunately, I think the 1913 marriage might be for a different Lillie.  On the 1910 Census, there is a Lillie Nachimovitz, age 16, born Russia, immigrated 1908, living in Manhattan with various family members, including siblings Ida, Abraham, and Dina.  I don't see her in the 1920 Census.  In the 1930 & 1940 Census, there are matches for Harry & Lillian Elitovitz living in Brooklyn.  The age & immigration date seem to be close to those of the other Lillie.  Lillie & Harry's age at 1st marriage look consistent with a 1913 marriage.  In the Social Security Death Index, Lillian Elitovitz's birth date was 15 Apr 1894, which looks off from the age of your Lillie.

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Re: Looking for Lillie
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 October 12 08:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks

I think I agree that the Lillie that marries in 1913 is probably not mine based on the evidence you suggest.

It would be good to be able to find at least one of them on the 1920 census but I am finding it difficult to locate any likely suspects in 1920.  Do you know if there are big gaps in the US census for 1920?  I know there are a few gaps in the English census' but have little knowledge about US records?
I feel like, either she marries before 1920 - in which case the person we have just eliminated above is the only really clear suspect, she dies, in which case I can't find any likely evidence of this, or she is there somewhere and I just can't find her!!!!
Oh well - guess I will keep looking.
Thanks again

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Re: Looking for Lillie
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 October 12 13:36 BST (UK) »
I don't think that there are any bigger gaps in the 1920 Census than any of the others. 

There are lot of possible explanations - Lillie moved to another state or country, she married or died outside of New York City, her name is seriously misspelled on the census, the census taker missed her, etc.  Hopefully, some answers will turn up one way or the other.