Birth certificates - father's name

[Jill Eaton]

Bit of an odd question but can anyone tell me if, when the father's name  is given by the mother on the  irth certificate, would have been noted on the certificate if the father was deceased at the time of registration?

I know it's written after the father's name on some marriage certificates

Jillie

[kevinf2349]

I have a brith certificate where the father is noted as deceased on the BC.

He died a couple of months before the birth of his son.

Kevin

[Jill Eaton]

Cheers Kevin

That helps a lot.

I'm trying to work out when the father died as I know his twin daughters were born and registered in Nov 1865 and his wife was a widow by 1871. There is no mention of him being deceased on the birth registration so this narrows my time frame down a little more. Initially, it was possible that he could fathered his children and died before they born. Now I can add at least 9 months on.

Jillie

[rosie99]

Hi

Welcome to rootschat 

I suppose it would depend as to whether the person registering the birth stated that he was dead, it probably wasn't a question that was normally asked when a birth was registered. 

Rosie

[Marmalady]

Just as on marriage certificates, the omission of the word "deceased" does not prove he was alive at the time

As Rosie says, the question would not be routinely asked and if the informant did not volunteer the information, no-one would know and so it would not be entered on the certificate

So add those 9 months back onto the time-frame!

[Sloe Gin]

It is sometimes noted in the parish register if one or both parents are deceased when a child is baptised, so it might be worth looking for a baptism record.

[Guy Etchells]

It is sometimes noted as - the posthumous son of or the posthumous daughter of
Cheers
Guy

[Jill Eaton]

9 months added back again

I've been unable to find the baptism on ancestry. I know the twins' names - Hannah and Mary Williams born 2nd November 1865. Registered 29th November by the mother Hannah Williams of St Catherine's Road, Kensington Town. Father John Williams.

So I'm unable to check whether he was noted as deceased.

I did post  in 2008 about John Williams. I was Jillie42 then but couldn't log in under my old name as my old email address has been hacked into.

I got lots of help but had to leave it as I couldn't' make any head way.

I've decided to retry and locate him as i can't trace that part of my family with so little information about him. There was never an age given on his marriage certificate in 1863 to Hannah Fuller. just the location - St Martins in the Fields. He was just described as a labourer, bachelor, Of full age.

So now I'm trying to narrow down the possibles on Free BMD and attempting to winnow out the unlikeliest. Hit and miss I know but it's all I've got to go on

[Plummiegirl]

Must add my bit

My g/g/grandfather is listed as deceased on several of his daughters marriage certificates. 

He was alive and well and living with his 2nd much younger wife!!!

Do not believe all you see....

And as said before, people often only ever answered the questions asked and never volunteered other information.  So unless the registrar asked if father was alive, it would not have occurred to whoever was registering (probably the wife or her parents) the birth to mention if he was dead.

People were often very suspicious of those in jobs of authority.