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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 17:10 BST (UK) »
btw the marriage took place in Dalmellington, and I tried first names begining with "A" which matched, so then went through the alphabet until I found "Ag" and guessed Agnes which matched!

So in 1906 a James R Meiklejohn and an Agnes Sloss got married in Dalmellington.  

If it is the same people, Agnes has dissapeared by 1911.  

Interesting twists and turns!  

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Just an aside - I originally thought you were in Edinburgh from your name - but then names are not always what they seem are they

Ha ha I'm from Edinburgh but currently living in Liverpool! 

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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 17:13 BST (UK) »
Ah ha.... an Agnes Meiklejohn nee Sloss died in 1909 (though not in Ayr).  So it could tie in. 

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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 18:31 BST (UK) »
Yes, looking at a tree on Ancestry, Jessie Sloss had a sister Jean "Agnes" Sloss who married James Meiklejohn and she died in Glasgow Royal Infirmary on 6th July 1909

So it looks like she adopted her sister's baby, John Innes Sloss.   


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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 18:49 BST (UK) »

These are the census entries I was looking at... From 1881 we had Margaret b. Cambusnethan Lanarkshire c. 1841. I haven't checked as yet before to see how accurate this all was (but can  ::)).

For 1891, I saw this entry. I think two households may have got jumbled up on the transcript I am looking at:

Margaret McCulloch 54, head b. Wishaw, Lanark
Janet Carrol 37, wife, wife b. Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright
James Carrol 10 Months
Address: 16 Langlands St, Kilmarnock

This entry is the only Margaret McCulloch showing in Ayrshire born Lanarkshire 1837 +/- 5rs.

For 1901:

...I am struggling now...did I dream it yesterday  :-\

Monica

Ahhhh....I didn't dream it after all, I think! This was the 1901 census entry I saw in the last couple of days with Margaret Steel under her maiden name (given she was long separated, not surprising really):

Robt Miller 61, General Labourer b. Kilmaurs, ayrsh
Margt Steel 64 housekeeper b. Wishaw

Address: 14 Dean Lane, Kilmarnock

Monica  ;)
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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 19:03 BST (UK) »
Just tidying up some other bits for now....

I think John Innes Sloss and wife Agnes ended up in Australia!

There are electoral roll entries for a John Innes Sloss and an Agnes Sloss, both living at 25 Collins Street, Toowoomba North, Darling Downs, Queensland for 1963.

In 1968, at 178 Holberton Street, Toowoomba West.

Monica
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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 19:22 BST (UK) »
Just tidying up some other bits for now....

I think John Innes Sloss and wife Agnes ended up in Australia!

There are electoral roll entries for a John Innes Sloss and an Agnes Sloss, both living at 25 Collins Street, Toowoomba North, Darling Downs, Queensland for 1963.

In 1968, at 178 Holberton Street, Toowoomba West.

Monica

Now that is a distinctive possibility, my mum and dad moved to Australia in the early 60s on the £10 pomme deal or whatever they called it (they returned a year or so later) and I remember her talking of certainly a Jescella (don't know if that's how you spell it) sloss and possibly others.  If she's up for talking about it will do some digging!   

Something else looks a little strange ...

In the 1911 census you've got at Knowehead, Dalmellington

James R. Meiklejohn (Head) 30
Marion Hendrie (Neice) 20
John Sloss (Nephew) 8

and next door

Margaret L Sloss (nee Lees) 67
William Sloss (Son) 33
Robert S Hendrie (Nephew) 12
John L Meiklejohn (Nephew) 2

Ok so James R. Meiklejohn was married to Jessie Sloss's sister Jane "Agnes" Sloss who died in 1909.  Next door is Jessie and Jane's mum Margaret Sloss nee Lees (Robert Sloss died in 1896). 

What strikes me as strange is, both households have taken in children that aren't their own.  But if James R MeikleJohn has taken in a Hendrie and a Sloss then why didn't he take in John L Meiklejohn since he is in his bloodline? 

Of course could simply be that if he was a working man, looking after an 8 year old (John Sloss) may be more practical than looking after a 2 year old (and presumable Margaret Lees was retired by then).  That said, Marion Hendrie was 20 and didn't have a listed occupation, so wouldn't it be likely that she would have looked after the baby in those days? 

Or has he knocked up his "neice" and his mother in law taken in the baby to cover up the scandal? 

Perhaps I'm just getting carried away!  Certainly some interesting lines of enquiry to check out at Scotland's people! 



 


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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 19:35 BST (UK) »
Or thinking about it, since John L Meiklejohn was 2 on the 1911 census and therefore was born around 1909 and Jean "Agnes" Sloss died in 1909, perhaps she died in childbirth, and as I previously suggested the retired mother in law next door was better placed to look after a small baby? 


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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 19:53 BST (UK) »
I always think that the census is just snap shot of one night! If it is anything like my household some weekends, I have a few extra children here always sleeping over who are friends of my children, or my nephews  ;D

John Innes Sloss was older, John Meiklejohn was much younger, maybe no more complicated than that on the night, given they lived next door to each other  ::)

Monica
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Re: Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 20:16 BST (UK) »
I always think that the census is just snap shot of one night! If it is anything like my household some weekends, I have a few extra children here always sleeping over who are friends of my children, or my nephews  ;D

John Innes Sloss was older, John Meiklejohn was much younger, maybe no more complicated than that on the night, given they lived next door to each other  ::)

Monica

Yeah I think you are right, I'm starting to read too much into things! 

Nevertheless, I've got a few certificates to check out which may clarify a things a bit when I'm in the centre.