Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk

[MonicaL]

So....John Innes, the dairyman, actually owned half the cows of East Lothian  I will PM now Josey!

John, regarding booking a day pass at the Scotlands People Centre www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/ always worthwhile doing if you are planning a day there (rather than just popping in on the off-chance) just in case you arrive and all the terminal places are already occupied.

Monica

[johnkingedinburgh]

I have access to the list of property records for both Innes Buildings & other property owned by John Innes, dairyman.

Pm me with your email addresses, John & Monica, & I will send them to you.

Wow, thanks most kindly!  I've sent you my email address. 

So....John Innes, the dairyman, actually owned half the cows of East Lothian  I will PM now Josey!

Ha ha, made me chuckle! 

I had a look at his death certificate (I should really wait until I got to Scotland's people but was curious) and his job title is down as Dairyman.  He lived at 80 Bridge Street (Bellevue Cottage) when he died, whilst William Innes (his adopted son/my grandad) lived at New Row (presumably Innes Buildings) when he recorded the death.  He must have therefore inherited 80 Bridge Street and moved there where he lived until his death in the 70s. 

John, regarding booking a day pass at the Scotlands People Centre www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/ always worthwhile doing if you are planning a day there (rather than just popping in on the off-chance) just in case you arrive and all the terminal places are already occupied.

Thanks for the tip, I shall certainly do that. 

[josey]

I wonder how & why John Innes changed from coal miner to dairyman between 1891 & 1901? Creative script mode: Was a mine accident & he was injured? Did William McCulloch give him money to set up a business in exchange for adopting his son? Just another story line for the soap opera!

Josey

[johnkingedinburgh]

I wonder how & why John Innes changed from coal miner to dairyman between 1891 & 1901? Creative script mode: Was a mine accident & he was injured? Did William McCulloch give him money to set up a business in exchange for adopting his son? Just another story line for the soap opera!

Josey

Ahhh... that does have a ring of truth to it.  William McCulloch a pit manager, John Innes a miner like his father before him, gets given the money to start a dairy to help support his son.  It's certainly a possibility! 

I think I've managed to track down the whereabouts of Jessie's second illegitimate child John Innes Sloss:

Date
2 Apr 1911

Location
Dalmellington

Description
John is 8 years old and living with his step-father Jimmy Meiklejohn age 30 and his cousin Marion Hendrie age 20. On the same block his Gran Margaret Sloss (Lees) age 67, uncle William Sloss age 33 and cousins Robert Hendrie age 12 and John Meiklejohn age

Sounds like a good match because Margaret Sloss nee Lees was Jessie's mum, and my aunt peggy was Margaret Lees Innes. 

Wonder why the 2nd child was adopted locally whilst the 1st one was on the other side of Scotland - were attitudes becoming more progressive by then I wonder. 

[MonicaL]

Hi John

Saw the refence to John Innes Sloss on the 1911:

Description
John is 8 years old and living with his step-father Jimmy Meiklejohn age 30 and his cousin Marion Hendrie age 20. On the same block his Gran Margaret Sloss (Lees) age 67, uncle William Sloss age 33 and cousins Robert Hendrie age 12 and John Meiklejohn age

However, was confused about that as we know that Jessie Sloss died unmarried so wondered why John Innes Sloss was refered to as step son to a Jimmy Meiklejohn? Would imply that Jessie married him between 1902-4.

Maybe the term 'step-father' has been used in error?

Monica

PS: He is not down as step-son but nephew...likely James Meiklejohn married a Sloss girl. He shows as a widower. A John Meiklejohn, aged 2, is next door with Margaret Sloss Snr, showing as nephew (likely grandson?).

[johnkingedinburgh]

Hi John

Saw the refence to John Innes Sloss on the 1911:

Description
John is 8 years old and living with his step-father Jimmy Meiklejohn age 30 and his cousin Marion Hendrie age 20. On the same block his Gran Margaret Sloss (Lees) age 67, uncle William Sloss age 33 and cousins Robert Hendrie age 12 and John Meiklejohn age

However, was confused about that as we know that Jessie Sloss died unmarried so wondered why John Innes Sloss was refered to as step son to a Jimmy Meiklejohn? Would imply that Jessie married him between 1902-4.

Maybe the term 'step-father' has been used in error?

Monica

PS: He is not down as step-son but nephew...likely James Meiklejohn married a Sloss girl. He shows as a widower. A John Meiklejohn, aged 2, is next door with Margaret Sloss Snr, showing as nephew (likely grandson?).

Good point, I copied the above from a family tree on ancestry, so they may have mis-typed it.  I've run out of credits on Scotlands People so will check it out when I am up there. 

[MonicaL]

John, I would put down the marriage from earlier for a John Innes Sloss in 1941 on your 'look at' list in Edinburgh. Did he die in Scotland...not sure. There are only 7 entries for deaths for a John Sloss post 1941 (and the date of that marriage in Dalmellington). I put a wide age range for birth year - 1903 +/- 5yrs. None feel right 

Monica

[johnkingedinburgh]

John, I would put down the marriage from earlier for a John Innes Sloss in 1941 on your 'look at' list in Edinburgh. Did he die in Scotland...not sure. There are only 7 entries for deaths for a John Sloss post 1941 (and the date of that marriage in Dalmellington). I put a wide age range for birth year - 1903 +/- 5yrs. None feel right 

Monica

I shall certainly put that on my must look at list! 

I noticed the middle initial "R" on the 1911 census entry, so I did a free search on Scotlandspeople and there is a marriage in 1906 between a James R Meiklejohn and a Sloss in Ayr so your theory that he married a Sloss girl seems to be bang on, and another line to have a look at! 

I wish there was a Scotland's people centre nearby

[josey]

Just an aside - I originally thought you were in Edinburgh from your name - but then names are not always what they seem are they 

Josey