Scandal and intrigue! Jessie Sloss / William McCulloch - Linkieburn, Muirkirk

[MonicaL]

Arghhh...children start to arrive back home from school...concentration is coming and going on searches 

Added: These are the census entries I was looking at... From 1881 we had Margaret b. Cambusnethan Lanarkshire c. 1841. I haven't checked as yet before to see how accurate this all was (but can  ).

For 1891, I saw this entry. I think two households may have got jumbled up on the transcript I am looking at:

Margaret McCulloch 54, head b. Wishaw, Lanark
Janet Carrol 37, wife, wife b. Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright
James Carrol 10 Months
Address: 16 Langlands St, Kilmarnock

This entry is the only Margaret McCulloch showing in Ayrshire born Lanarkshire 1837 +/- 5rs.

For 1901:

...I am struggling now...did I dream it yesterday 

Monica

[MonicaL]

Monica, you said the informant was an 'occupant' so less likely to be related - this may explain the discrepancy in her husband's name.

Strangely the term 'occupier' is quite lose and can refer to direct family in the household. I have seen it mostly used in the Aberdeenshire area. From the info you posted Josey, Helen daughter didn't marry until 1904, so who knows at this stage?

Monica

[josey]

I have tried looking the address search for 1901 on FindMyPast for SOULIS Street, Kilmarnock but can't find it. Am I reading it right?

Josey

[MonicaL]

It does show as Soulis St - you might be searching as Street?

No McCullochs there that I can see.

Monica

Added: At a guess for Helen, there is a Nellie (she seemed to like that variant) McCulloch aged 23 showing as a visitor at the Blackwood household in Nethermyln, Kilbirnie in 1901, born in Maybole and a farm servant. Also in the household, in the entry below her is a 1 month old William Wright, also a visitor b. Kilbirnie.

John, don't think Josey and I mad for digressing from the core. Sometimes you have to go out to focus in 

[johnkingedinburgh]

Thanks for all the efforts!  I'm a bit lost now

I had a quick look for Soulis St, Kilmarnock on Google maps and there is one if that helps! 

Out of curiosity I had a look to check if any Innes's had married any Sloss's or McCulloch's and came up with the following:

1   1917   MCCULLOCH   JOSEPH   INNES   CHARLOTTE   ARDROSSAN NEW   /AYR   576/02 0025      
2   1878   MCCULLOCH   WILLIAM   INNES   ISABELLA   LOCHEE   DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS   282/05 0032      
3   1907   MCCULLOCH   JOHN   INNES   MARY   FAULDHOUSE   /WEST LOTHIAN   673/02 0032      

3   1872   INNES   JOHN   MCCULLOCH   MARY ANN   BLYTHSWOOD   GLASGOW CITY/LANARK   644/06 0260   


1   1873   SLOSS   ALEXANDER   INNES   MARY   DALZIEL   /LANARK   639/00 0021

I got excited when I saw one in Dalmellington until I spotted it was in 1972! 

I'm up in Edinburgh in a couple of weeks and going to go to Register House so I might have a poke about these if I get a bit of time. 

[MonicaL]

That is great that you are going to the Scotlands People Centre...have you booked in advance?

Monica

PS: Don't get lost please  We are just extending the family for William at all times. Ask as many questions on anything you see from everyone at any time.

[still_looking]

Someone mentioned Jessie dying of TB aged 34 in 1904. I don't have the original certificate but I do have a note from the index on scotlandspeople and that states 38.

Given that year of death and age at death along with a place of birth of Dalmellington I believe your Sloss side goes as follows:

Jessie born 27/03/1865 to Robert Sloss and Margaret Lees
her siblings: Andrew, John Lees, Mary, Robert, James, William
Robert married Margaret on 04/03/1864 at Ayr, New Cumnock

Robert born 8/3/1843 to James Sloss and Jessie Ferguson at Dalmellington
his siblings: Agnes, Elizabeth, Janet, Mary, Jessie, Barbara Rae (this last one I'm unsure of)
James married Jessie on 21/08/1838 at Dalmellington

James born 21/8/1817 to Robert Sloss and Mary Rae at Dalmellington
his siblings: Duncan, Elizabeth, Mary, Quintin, Thomas, Robert, John
Robert married Mary on 14/01/1816 at Dalmellington

Robert born in 1793 to James Sloss and Elizabeth Armour place unknown but probably Ayr, Dailly
his siblings: James (1791), James (1794), Jean/Jane (1803)

Hope that helps a bit.

S_L

[johnkingedinburgh]

That is great that you are going to the Scotlands People Centre...have you booked in advance?

Oh I didn't know you could book in advance, I'd better get on to that! 

I've only been there once before and didn't arrive until 2pm so only had a couple of hours but found loads on my dad's side, hoping to have a full day this time as I probably won't manage back up for about a year or so. 

Someone mentioned Jessie dying of TB aged 34 in 1904. I don't have the original certificate but I do have a note from the index on scotlandspeople and that states 38.

Given that year of death and age at death along with a place of birth of Dalmellington I believe your Sloss side goes as follows:

I have got that certificate, sure enough her age is given as 38.  Cause of death is given as "Plithisis Pulmonalis" which I interpret as TB?

Strangely enough, though probably of little relevance - on the same page there is the death of an Agnes McCulloch who was married to a John McCulloch - Master Baker, from Dalmellington!  What are the odds of that! 

Going back to the John Innes who adopted my grandad William McCulloch Sloss, my mum always said he "owned half of Tranent" and "was the richest man in the Lothians".  Something in light of the McCulloch fortune story I was taking with a very large pinch of salt. 

HOWEVER ... on their marriage certificate of 1884 he gives his address as New Row tranent - very close to Bellevue Cottage in Bridge Street where the family lived until my Grandparent's died in the mid 70s. 

I had a look at New Row, Tranent on Google maps, and low and behold it says "Innes Buildings"! 

Could be a red herring of course, but I feel a bit of googling coming on! 

[josey]

I have access to the list of property records for both Innes Buildings & other property owned by John Innes, dairyman.

Pm me with your email addresses, John & Monica, & I will send them to you.

Josey