St Phillip's, Birmingham Burial Records

[LisaMary]

Hi,
I've got a burial record for St Phillip's for my ggg grandfather Charles Cameron on 7th Feb 1847 it says a film number & St Phillip's.

I can't translate this to a real place.  Where was St Phillip's grave yard (the big one round the cathedral?)  Is what you can see the extent of what it was.  i.e. do you think if I go mooching round I might find a headstone or were there paupers graves and he might have been in one of them?

The ref is:  Engalnd Death's & Burials 1538 - 1991 - Pg 444 No 3549 FHL Microfilm 814858

Many Thanks for any help

Lisa

[mrsruz]

St Phillips graveyard is indeed the area around the cathedral, but was far more extensive than it is today. Several years ago it was discovered during some renovation work that there were bodies buried well outside the present day limits.
At the time you are searching, St Phillips was just another city centre parish church. It wasn´t made into a cathedral until (as far as I can remember) Birmingham became a city.
Birmingham Central Library has extensive parish records for St Phillips, but no idea about availability at the moment as they are working on restricted hours until the move to the new library is complete.

[LisaMary]

Thanks very much for that am re-assured to keep mooching about.  I will try ringing 1st they can usually givea good idea about what they've got.

Many Thanks again and for your swift reply.

Regards

Lisa

[jim1]

In 1847 the graveyard was the same at it is now according to my map,however today few of the headstones are left.You should also be aware the Whittal St. cemetary was an overspill for St.Philip's so the interment may have taken place there but would have been recorded in the St.Philip's Parish book.

jim

[LisaMary]

Thanks Jim,

I didn't know there used to be a cemtery in Whittal Street - it's so built up now.  Do you think they left the remains in place when they did the building? That seems kind of wrong somehow but there aain I suppose they think they've found a king under a car park in Leicester  don't they :-)

Many Thanks for your kind help again

Lisa

[jim1]

I think the Whittal St. burials were reinterred at Witton cemetery.

[LisaMary]

Ah yes my cousin said she had heard that some were moved to Witton but she thought it was the over flows they found a few years ago.

Do you know anything about St Matthews, Leicester Street, Duddeston cum Nechells.  It was bombed in the war.  But we have completely lost a 1915 burial for Mary Ann Myers she's not with her husband Martin Myers at Witton and St Matthews was the closest although I think they may have been Catholic so thought of St Josephs.  I know the St Josephs are at St Chads apart from some missing years.  Did St Matthews have a cemetery do you know?

Many Thanks once again

Lisa

[jim1]

Many of the later Churches didn't have graveyards,St.Matthews being one.By 1915 all burials took place in one of the Corporation Cemeteries.

[LisaMary]

Was there any other than Witton, Key Hill & Warstone?