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rgrist
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1842, nearest jail to Monmouthshire?
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Wednesday 03 October 12 13:57 BST (UK) »
An ancestor was sentenced to 2 months in jail in 1842 and lived near Machen, Monmouthshire, South Wales. Would he have been incarcerated at Cardiff?
Have had a browse on the net for information on gaols which were operational at that time. There seem to be few open.
Looking on the Access 2 Archives website, the calendar of prisoners from that date doesn't seem to survive?
btw, I have got the sentencing record and case notes
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wilcoxon
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Barry Sheene 1950-2003
Re: 1842, nearest jail to Monmouthshire?
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Wednesday 03 October 12 14:08 BST (UK) »
The Examiner (London, England), Sunday, April 19, 1835;
There is a report on an incident at Monmouth Prison in this issue.
And another on this date , The Standard (London, England), Monday, January 06, 1840
Census information is Crown Copyright (see:
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wilcoxon
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Barry Sheene 1950-2003
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Wednesday 03 October 12 14:14 BST (UK) »
Do you have his name and the details , there may be something in the papers, a long shot but worth a try .
Census information is Crown Copyright (see:
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rgrist
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Wednesday 03 October 12 14:35 BST (UK) »
Monmouth was open 1790-1869, I think Cardiff was a senior moment?!
Not sure if any relevant papers are online yet,
http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
only has the Western Mail from 1850. Couldn't find anything on that.
It was only stealing potatoes, so wouldn't have made 'The Times' or nationals! (RODGERS/HODGES)
Maybe the Ebbw Vale archives would have something on film but I'm not local to that area.
annamaywong
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Wednesday 03 October 12 15:04 BST (UK) »
There is a jail operating even today at Usk, which I would think is the nearest to Monmouth,
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Hystericalwriter
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Wednesday 03 October 12 15:06 BST (UK) »
How about Usk gaol..........have a look at this wiki link
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0rix/
Anne
ps and there is pictures of prisoners in Usk, later than your ancestor, but might be of interest to get prison life into context
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0riy/
OWEN(s): Llangurig, MGY; JOHN: Treherbert GLA; LEWIS: Margam GLA; BOON: Brixham, DEV
VITTERY:Brixham, DEV; FRANCE: Brixham, DEV
GLOVER: Parkham, DEV ;BOIT: Wellington, SOM
YOUNG: Castle Combe, WIL; LIVINGSTONE: Limavady NI; CAMPBELL: Ballykelly, Derry
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Wednesday 03 October 12 15:09 BST (UK) »
Why does it have to be jail in Monmouthshire?
I have seen inmates from all over the country in places like Portland Prison?!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)
rgrist
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Wednesday 03 October 12 23:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies. The Usk site is great. I think it was a House of Correction rather than a prison at the time I'm interested in.
I guess it depends on how full the prisons were as to whether they shipped prisoners out further afield. And how long the sentence was maybe, not worth moving them for a short stint.
Hystericalwriter
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Thursday 04 October 12 09:44 BST (UK) »
Portland prison and its records and life have already been discussed here:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0rkn/
Possibly for more serious offenders?
OWEN(s): Llangurig, MGY; JOHN: Treherbert GLA; LEWIS: Margam GLA; BOON: Brixham, DEV
VITTERY:Brixham, DEV; FRANCE: Brixham, DEV
GLOVER: Parkham, DEV ;BOIT: Wellington, SOM
YOUNG: Castle Combe, WIL; LIVINGSTONE: Limavady NI; CAMPBELL: Ballykelly, Derry
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