port dalrympal muster 1820 look up request PURCELL

[elricks]

I have John PURCELL who was a private in the 48th Stationed in Port Dalrympal or George Town around 1820.  He came to Australia with a wife, and left with a wife and 2 children. At least one of the children was born in VDL.

Are any musters for the period 1818-1822 indexed or published?  If not, does anyone have access to the film, who could tell me if John PURCELL (at times spelled as POSTELL), wife Ann, children William and Elizabeth (but I know from past experience these were very unlikely to have been mentioned or named) are listed.

As my ancestor was known to have been in Port Dalrymple (there is a mention in a newspaper, and in the book The Colonial Garrison) I would also be keen to get access to any opinion on what the place was like at the time. Has anyone done any work on what these musters may reveal of life in Port Dalrymple c1820?

Thanks, SHIRLEY

[majm]

To avoid duplication, here’s a link to your previous thread.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,616581.0.html

I had posted information on that thread, including info about the book you mention; the details from a newspaper cutting that mentions your chap; information about the two children's baptismal records you hold; dates of arrival and departure.  The book is available at many public libraries, perhaps it is at the State Library of Victoria?

There was no requirement for the Military to be part of the Non-Military 1818-1820 muster. The book cites many references to the 48ths monthly pay musters in its Bibliography.    The book gives good background to the activities of the 48th in Van Diemens Land  (pages 59 to 95).  VDL had not yet been hived off from NSW at that time.

 
Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Among the several Appendices to the late Clem Sargent's book on the 48th, are the following topics:

The Peninsular Regiments in Australia .... with the following note no. 4 "Details of the service of the regiments can be obtained from the Australian Joint Copying Project microfilm copies of the following War Office documents held by the Public Record Office, Kew, England:
WO 12 - Muster Books and Pay Lists (Other Rank Records only)
WO 17 - Monthly Returns
WO 25 - Returns of Officer's Service
Complete sets of the microfilms are held by the National Library of Australia, the Mitchell Library of the State Library of New South Wales, and the State Library of Victoria......"
 Rates of Pay
Cost of Necessaries

The Index lists
Port Dalrymple at the following page nos :  21, 29-31, 50, 56, 59, 60, 63, 66-7, 69, 72-8, 80-1, 83-4, 88, 105, 129.
George Town at the following page nos :  44, 51, 59-61, 67, 69, 70, 73, 75, 77, 81-2, 87, 92

May I again recommend the book.

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

I have John PURCELL who was a private in the 48th Stationed in Port Dalrympal or George Town around 1820.  He came to Australia with a wife, and left with a wife and 2 children. At least one of the children was born in VDL.

Are any musters for the period 1818-1822 indexed or published?  If not, does anyone have access to the film, who could tell me if John PURCELL (at times spelled as POSTELL), wife Ann, children William and Elizabeth (but I know from past experience these were very unlikely to have been mentioned or named) are listed.

As my ancestor was known to have been in Port Dalrymple (there is a mention in a newspaper, and in the book The Colonial Garrison) I would also be keen to get access to any opinion on what the place was like at the time. Has anyone done any work on what these musters may reveal of life in Port Dalrymple c1820?

Thanks, SHIRLEY

Hi Shirley,

Some further links that may help with info about life in Port Dalrymple c 1820
At Trove, when I use the keywords “Port Dalrymple” and restrict the search to 1817-1824 there are over 1000 returns in the newspaper cuttings.    “George Town” returns over 175. 
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper?q=


http://librariesaustralia.nla.gov.au/apps/kss?action=DisplayRecord&targetid=nbd&recordid=11812504   Lists many libraries that hold the book.

Governor Lachlan Macquarie
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/macquarie-lachlan-2419

Full transcripts of Gov. Macquarie’s Diaries
http://chnm.gmu.edu/worldhistorysources/r/87/whm.html

Lieutenant Governor William Sorell
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/sorell-william-2680

Commandant Gilbert Cimitiere
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/cimitiere-gilbert-1895

Commissioner John Thomas Bigge
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/bigge-john-thomas-1779

Lieutenant Governor James Erskine
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/erskine-james-2028

Paymaster to the 48th, Terence Aubrey Murray
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/murray-sir-terence-aubrey-2498


Cheers,  JM

[elricks]

I have placed the order for the book, and now eagerly await the delivery. I was thinking that the book cover just the army aspects, but of course I can see that would be a very narrowly focused book if that was the case.

Have you see the following note from a Tasmanian newspaper referring to the 48th after it left AU

THE TASMANIAN. WEDNESDAY, JAN. 19, 1825. 
We are extremely sorry to learn, that Colonel Cimitiere, late Commandant of Port Dalrymple, has been cut off with his detachment by a party of Indian insurgents.     Amongst the names of many brave   Officers, belonging to His Majesty's 48th Regiment, so recently and prematurely cut off by the epidemical rage of the Cholera Morbus, at Madras, we are sorry to find that of Lieutenant Reid (who previous to his departure from these Colonies had been stationed at Launceston) together with Lady Brooke, the Lady of Captain Brooke, of the same corps. 


Thanks

SHIRLEY

[majm]

Lieutenant Charles J VANDERMEULEN of the 48th was the Naval Officer and Inspector of Public Works at George Town and at Port Dalrymple (appointed Feb/Mar 1819.    There is information at the NSW Col Sec’s index 1788-1825.   I understand that the Col Sec’s files have been digitised  and are now available at Ancestry, as well as at the NSW SRO.   

http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/default.htm

There’s entries in those Col Sec records under the heading “Forty Eighth (48th) Regiment".....  Including the note that the Marriage Register of the 48th Regiment had been kept regularly according to General Order. 

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

The extended Brooke family were associated with various ships that were contracted to transport Convicts, the various Regiments AND those that 'came free'.     

 http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/brooks-richard-1830

Two of my forebears came to NSW with the Regiment.  They stayed when the Regiment's Tour of Duty was complete. 

Cheers,  JM