Brasiers of Hackwood Park, Basingstoke

[Janete]

This is a bit of a big ask but any scrap of extra information might be a big help  I'm related to the Braiser family that were employed at Hackwood Park in the 1700s and early 1800s.  George (born 1745 Basingstoke), one of the gamekeepers, was my 3x great grandfather. His father and mother were John (died 1770 Basingstoke) and Anne (died 1784). I don't know where they were born.  There is also another John (called John jnr for a while) who was land agent for the park (born about 1732 don't know where, died 1805, buried Old Basing and married to a Jane).  I think he was probably George's older brother but might be wrong. I want to find out the relationship between the two and (a long shot) where the family came from originally. I've found entries for the family at Basingstoke, Old Sarum, Cliddesden and Winslade so far.  The other thing is there was a John Brasier who was mayor of Basingstoke in 1757/8 and I wonder if anyone knows which John it was, if either! It's difficult for me to visit the record office as I live in the midlands. I'd be very grateful for any help, thanks.

[EwshotLad]

Hi Janete

I found the following Baptisms at Basingstoke all to children of John & Ann Brasier.

24NOV1737              THOMAS
18OCT1739              SAMUEL
27JAN1742/43          ALEXANDER
16MAY1745              GEORGE
21NOV1748             ANNE
14JUN1750              CHARLES

I could not find a marriage for this pair. John is referred to as Mr in the registers which usually means he was a person of standing.

I found the following Baptisms for John Brasier
15AUG1708  son of EDWARD & MARY  Micheldever
13SEP1741   son of JOHN  Brown Candover

And JOHN BRAZIER
22OCT1699  son of RICHARD & ELIZABETH  Overton--- Shepherd

Hope this helps
Vic Wise
Brisbane Oz

[Janete]

Hi Vic,

It's odd having someone on the other side of the world reply.  Thanks very much - I had the Basingstoke baptisms but not the others, perhaps I can follow those three up given a bit of luck.

Regards Janet.

[Lucy Bakewell]

Janete

hi there...... I am directly related to John Brasier who was brother to George. In the register the surname is spelt as Brasser.  Additional children to John and Ann are

John bp 5.6.1732     Basingstoke
Richard bp 8.7.1734      "
James bp 4.5.1736         "

John married Jane Samwell in Herriard 22.7.1753.
Yesterday I went to see their memorial plaque in St Mary's church old Basing. Its big and records John as Steward to the Duke of Bolton.

 see http://www.britannia.com/church/studies/basg1843.html

I think that John was born in 1708 to Edward Brasier and Mary Falkener (Micheldever)

hope I have filled in some gaps

regards

Lucy

[Janete]

Hi Lucy,

It's nice to contact someone else related. Thank you very much for the information, I hope I'll get to see the plaque one day.

Difficult name with all the different spellings. I've done a bit more research since I posted and I think our John senior may have married Ann Taylor from Tilehurst at Reading St. Giles 21.12.1728.  They had an additional son, William, christened there 13.11.1729. The name was spelt Breashier on the register.

 I'm still a bit uncertain where John senior originated. There seem to be several possibilities. Is there a particular reason for his father being Edward from Micheldever? I must say the date and location do make it a good bet though. Any idea what this Edward's occupation was or who he worked for? Most likely, unless John had a rich patron as a child, I would have thought he will have had to have a father with some position in society?  I don't think any of John's sons were called after Edward which was a bit unusual.

Regards,
Janet