BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 7 William Roache

[KGarrad]

Let's not forget that (probably!) there is a lot more research going on that gets mentioned in a 1 hour program!

The producer and director are trying to make a TV programme; and entertainment at that, so lots of stuff will be left on the cutting room floor.

But the failure to mention the grocer was indeed a bit strange?

[ammonite]

It does annoy me on WDYTYA that because children are with grandparents etc on census day they start talking about how they must have been brought up by them. Why doesn't anyone point out they might only have been there on that day.

Me too! In 1911 she was living with her parents in Blackpool.

But the other daughter 'May' is still with her grandmother, Alice, and still described as 'dau' not grand dau.

I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only one annoyed by the leaps made and bits ignored.  There feels like in this program there should have been another hour of material

[oldtimer]

Was she the daughter that Bill spoke of at the start of the programme, who he believed was only a half-sister or something like that?

I wonder what that was all about?

[Aulus]

He started off (I thought) by hinting that 'May' might not have been a full sister.  So why didn't they get a birth certificate or the baptism (if baptised) to confirm her parentage - and for Roach's mother and other aunt?

Well, obviously, they will have done, and I presume as it wasn't mentioned that they were all legitimate and full, not half sisters, or adopted, or something - and to mention that would have removed the air of mystery.

With the name Waddicor, I could've told them at the start that they were very likely connected to Darwen.  It seemed that they were about to start talking about Darwen, but then suddenly changed their minds.

[annaS]

It does annoy me on WDYTYA that because children are with grandparents etc on census day they start talking about how they must have been brought up by them. Why doesn't anyone point out they might only have been there on that day?

Not a 3 month old child travelling from Lancashire to Staffordshire!  But I agree there is more than one reason why children are in the households of relatives.

Anna

[Beatle]

I quite enjoyed this one.

I noticed a bad edit when discussing Albert Waddicor with the lady from William Salt Library.

She says "I have a marriage certificate" of his mother and father that shows Albert as a gentleman and I noticed the paternal grandfather William Henry Roache as a doctor and when we looked again the father was a Charles Glover, a Licenced Victualler clearly it must have been a sisters marriage certificate but wasn't mentioned.

I thought I'd had a senior moment!  

Beatle

[MasterHatter]

What a load of rubbish!  Apparently Albert 'loved no-one so was not loved by anyone'.  ? He was a drinker, couldn't be trusted with the children etc.  ?  Err.  Evidence please.  WDYTYR stick to the facts please.

[stonechat]

I suppose I have got used to the celeb's imaginings - it didn't bother me

It was a very good episode IMHO, apart from the not doing the basic research - we would have all looked for those sisters early on.

[cati]

It does annoy me on WDYTYA that because children are with grandparents etc on census day they start talking about how they must have been brought up by them. Why doesn't anyone point out they might only have been there on that day?

Not a 3 month old child travelling from Lancashire to Staffordshire!  But I agree there is more than one reason why children are in the households of relatives.

Anna

I wondered whether, given the age of the youngest child (only 3 months) and the fact that the two youngest children were in different households, whether Zillah might have been ill after the birth and the two children being looked after by different family members to give her a bit of respite...

Cati