Look up request for Woolpit 1841 census

[Alord]

I would be most grateful for a look up in the Woolpit census of 1841 for the following family:

Robert Burt age unknown and birthplace unknown
Mary Ann Burt wife (around 20ish)
and any children. 

There should be 1 definitely, Susannah.

Thanks a lot.
Alison

[nigels]

All Burt's indexed for 1841.  All living in Woolpit and born in Suffolk

BURT 
Alfred 4 months    
Charles 30     
Charles 5       
Charlotte 60      
Charlotte 7   
Eliza   
Eliza 25      
Eliza 9   
Emma 3     
George 65  
George 12  
Hannah 1     
Harriet 14       
Harriet 3 months 
James 10 
James 30       
Jane 15       
Judith 34   
Mary Ann 7   
Mary Ann 6 
Robert 25      
William 25 

[Alord]

Thanks very much for your time and trouble, Nigels, not quite what I was expecting,maybe Mary Ann was away visiting parents with daughter Susannah.  She didn't die until 1844 so must be somewhere fairly local.

Good searching and many thanks again.

Alison

[krisesjoint]

Hi Alison. I am very interested in your query here. I have a very strange situation concerning the name Burt in Woolpit. For some reason my Allington/Ollington family seem to at times use the name Burt. I have no idea why and would love to find a connection between these families. Do you know much about the Burts from Woolpit? I am trying to fathom why my family are at times the Burt's. I am presuming the people you are looking for are Robert son of George and Charlotte Neptham married to Mary Ann Manning? I will try to find them in 1841 They should be there as there is Dau Harriet also by this time and Eliza will be baptised Woolpit in October. I have them in 1851 moved to Ipswich St Helen...Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Hi again Alison. I have them in 1841 finally. For some reason the family are not together on Census night. Robert Working perhaps. And there is another daughter also

HO107/1036 Folio 16 Page 1
High Street
Woolpit

home of Charles Parker and Family

BURT Robert 25 Yes Male Servant

also in High Street

HO107/1036 Folio 22 Page 13
High Street
Woolpit

BURT Mary Ann 25 Yes Wife of Robert Burt
BURT Susanna 5 Yes
BURT Emma 4 Yes
BURT Harriet 1 Yes

Cheers Kris 

[Alord]

Hi there Kris,

Fantastic!  Well done for finding them in the 1841 and 2 daughters I did not know about!

As to your other query, that is very interesting about the alternative use of surname. However I am sorry I cannot help you here, the Burt connection via the daughter Susannah is one of my branches which I have found out very little about, other than the parents, Robert married to Mary Ann Manning which is on the IGI.

My connection is then via Susannah's husband, Walter Gibbons and so on and so on, so I am thrilled to find out about the Burt parents also and 2 more children.  I do know via FamilyHistory Online that Susannah died in 1844 and was buried in Woolpit, presumably then the family moved onto Ipswich.  Certainly Susannah and Walter lived there all their married life, until Susannah herself died relatively young in 1873.

I also have yet to pursue the Manning family line; however research is unending isnt it!

Very many thanks again
Alison

[Alord]

Hi Kris, I just noticed you mentioned yet another daughter, Eliza, was she born 1841 after the census?

Could you send me your info on the family from 1851, cos I am guessing, did Robert marry again after Mary Ann died 1844?

And were there any more children between 1841 and 1844?

Thanks again for your help.

Alison

[krisesjoint]

OK Alison. Pity you don't know any more. I will try to help out with what I have. I have this family in my tree not through the Burts because I have no idea if these Burts connect to my Allingtons or not. The only census I had was the 51 till I tracked them down in 41 yesterday. The peculiar thing is I know nothing of the death of Mary Ann. All this certainly does not substantiate a death! 

Baptisms To Robert and Mary Ann Burt
Susannah  Baptised 30 aug 1835 Woolpit
Eliza  3 Oct 1841 Woolpit
Mary Ann 26 Feb 1843 Baptised 26 Mar 1843 Ipswich St Margaret
Charlotte 24 Oct 1844 Ipswich Baptised 24 Dec 1844 Ipswich St Margaret
Robert 5 Jul 1846 Ipswich St Margaret
Fanny Merretta 7 Apr 1850 Ipswich St Margaret


1851 census index

HO107/1800 Folio 0-370
Ipswich St Helen

BURT Robert 36 Woolpit
BURT Mary A 36 Bardwell
BURT Harriet 11 Woolpit
BURT Eliza 9 Woolpit
BURT Charlotte 6 Ipswich
BURT Robert 4 Ipswich
BURT Jane 2 Ipswich
BURT Fanny M 1 Ipswich

Now Alison I had assumed Susannah had died but ob not ehh...LOL....so had a look there is only one Susannah in the index though birth is listed as Ipswich. With no other Burts on the folio I presume she is working and perhaps her employers did not know of her actual pob

HO107/1799 Folio 9-323
Ipswich St Matthew

BURT Susannah 15 Ipswich

Might have to see if I can spot them in 61 and see if Mary Ann is still there.... Kris     

[krisesjoint]

and here is what I have on previous generation George Burt b 1775 Stanton NEK=Charlotte Neptham b 1778 Tostock 12 Oct 1802 Woolpit

1. Charlotte b 20 Oct 1808 Baptised 11 Dec 1808 Woolpit = George Nunn b 1806 Finborough baptised 28 Dec 1806 Shelland (Son of James and Judith Abbott) This is how this family ended up in my tree through the Nunn family...though are not my direct line
     George 26 Feb 1836 Woolpit
2. Robert 19 Jan 1811 Woolpit baptised 10 Feb 1811 Woolpit=Mary Ann Manning NEK
3. Elizabeth 15 apr 1813 Woolpit
4. William 9 Jan 1816 Woolpit = Elizabeth Sparks who died before the 1841 census Presume Childbirth as William and son were with Parents in the census
      Alfred 7 Mar 1841 Woolpit
5. Elizabeth 19 Jul 1818 Woolpit
6. Mary Ann 3 Apr 1820 Woolpit
7. George 23 Nov 1823 Woolpit

Hope it helps...Kris