Brompton on Swale

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And the above couple in 1891 :

RG12/1365, Folio 11, Page 16

Enumerated as Holdgate with only the two of them in the household.

Pels.

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Later....

More confusion because Susan Holgate is now going by the name of .... Sarah.

Pels.

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To double check I've looked at the births for either a Susan or a Sarah Peacock during the time scale of 1858 to 1864 in the Ongar registration district.

Thankfully, there isn't one.

Pels.

[avm228]

Excellent detective work Pels 

I wonder then whether the Simpson name has something to do with Charles Edward's natural father (or at least his belief in that regard)?

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Hello ! 

Thank goodness - someone to talk to ! 

I wonder then whether the Simpson name has something to do with Charles Edward's natural father (or at least his belief in that regard)?

It does make you wonder ?

I think I've found a Holgate connection to the family :

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQZZ-LV1

A John Holgate is a visitor at the home of a widowed Elizabeth Turner in 1881. 

Pels.

[avm228]

Interesting. I wonder who that little chap John Holgate belonged to.

Also wonder about the Yorkshire connection. For some reason Susan went to Yorkshire and had a baby; no big deal. But she took him back to Essex as an infant and stayed in Essex. Why then did the child and his grandmother move to Yorkshire?  (Or at least Granny did. Charles Edward being with her in 1891 may have been a one off for all we know.)

[Pels.]

Five year old John could be a nephew to the person Susan married.

I wonder if one of Elizabeth's other children moved up to Yorkshire first ?

The Richmond/Catterick area also had quite a large army community - could it be related to Thomas Peacock?? That's just a wild guess though.

Pels.

[avm228]

Yes I wondered about the Army. The barracks appear to have been at Richmond Castle at that time, Catterick garrison being a later development.

[Pels.]

The whole area is closely related - even Hipswell where I'm sure I've seen a connection ?

Strange thing is, I can't find any mention of a five year old to fit a John Holgate anywhere, apart from the 1881 census - and going by the actual image, it's right ?

Pels.