Farming Bailiff called William Morris early 1800's

[daisydigg]

Hi there

Is there another name for farming bailiff?
daiseydigg

Farm steward.
From the Dictionary of Occupational Terms: Bailiff, farm bailiff, farm manager, farm steward.

Stan

Thanks Stan

I will investigate Fam Stewards

[sallyyorks]

Gamekeeper and Yardman are related occupations.

[mazi]

Just a long shot but there is a Perryhill nr Clehonger,some of the land round there was part of belmont abbey estate, sold off in1809,  the elder william may have lost his job as farm bailiff then.

mike

[stanmapstone]

Gamekeeper and Yardman are related occupations.

According to "A Dictionary of Occupational Terms" a yardman, yardsman, yard labourer, was a cattleman who cleaned out stalls, tipped manure and litter on a muck heap and worked generally in the cattle yard or around farm buildings.

Stan

[1pds]

According to Hall Genealogy Website (http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/f.html), a Farm Bailiff "Made sure a tenant farmer ran the farm properly and was paying the rent on time. If not the bailiff had the authority to evict."

[sallyyorks]

Thankyou Stan for your detailed description of 'Yardman' . My Grt  Grt Grandad was 'Yardman on Estate' in 1911 in Bradford. He moved around a lot and was previously (mostly) ag lab and  fs (Farm Servant) . But he was also ,for a while,  a Farm  Baliff  (had to move on rather sharpish again , not sure why) . So would being a Yardman on 'an Estate' be moving up in the cow muck slinging World then ? . Throwing cow muck about on 'an Estate' ! as opposed  to just throwing cow muck about , um , not on an Estate ?

[daisydigg]

Gosh!
Thanks all for all these fantastic leads!
I suspect Yardman, farm bailiff, etc were aspects of the same role and possibly depended on the size of the estate where employed?
I am currently searching his son William Morris suicide in the London Standard newspaper, but to no avail.
He died on 23 July 1865, Notting Hill. I have searched each paper from the next day to the following friday for the report.  Have also looked in the Pall Mall Gazette.
Does anyone know how long it takes for a reporter to get notification of a suicide?

[Valda]

Hi

Inquests were quick as bodies could not be kept. Reporters would report the most interesting inquests. There would be many held in London every day so a local newspaper would be more likely to carry the report than a newspaper that was covering the whole of London and beyond. Local London newspapers are less likely to be online.


Regards

Valda

[mazi]

since this is on the occupations board I will throw in a bit more, sallyyorks mentioned gamekeeper which made me think of a water bailiff, as the parish of clehonger has a 3 mile boundary to the river wye, noted for its disputes over fishing and navigation rights.

mike