St Martins, Birmingham Marriage look up

[robertmead70]

Hi looking for parents names, occupations etc for a marriage between
William Ball & Maria Perkins
18 July 1843.
Thanks for any help Rob

[Ruskie]

If you purchase the marriage certificate, you will get most of the information you are looking for:

Marriages Sep 1843
 
BALL  William    Birmingham  Volume16 page313    
JONES  John Downes     Birmingham  16 313   
JONES  John Downs     Birmingham  16 313   
PERKINS  Maria     Birmingham  16 313   
WILKINSON  Elizabeth     Birmingham  16 313   
WILKINSON  John     Birmingham  16 313   
WINDER  Catharine     Birmingham  16 313   
WRIGHT  Martin     Birmingham  16 313   
WRIGHT  Mary Ann     Birmingham  16 313 

Using the above reference details it is quick and easy to purchase the certificate online using a credit card. Cost is only £9.25: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp 

As you don't know their ages, and it is likely that there are several candidates on the censuses, you really need at least the father's names to make sure you are tracing the correct Maria and WIlliam.

[Ruskie]

As an example, assuming William was about 23 when he married therfore born 1820, I looked for a William Ball in the 1841 census born around 1820 +/- 5 years living in Warwickshire. I got 9 results.

Of course any of these perameters may be incorrect, which would give even more possible William Balls.

So, buying the certificate is the best way to progress with this search to ensure you are following the correct families. 

[Ruskie]

I have located William and Maria on the 1851 census. Do you have this?
This tells us that William is 32 so born about 1819 in Birmingham.

[Ruskie]

I have also found the family on the 1861 census. Interesting that William has his mother with the family. Places of birth are different from the 1851 for both William and Maria.

Let me know if you would like the details of the censuses.

[Ruskie]

I will pass these censues onto you anyway:

1851
Class HO107/ Piece 2061/ Folio 78/ Page 8
16 Court, Aston Road
William Ball head mar 32 pearl button maker
Maria wife 28
Charles son 5
Catherine daur 2
Margaret daur 3mo
Edward Glover brother unmar 36 ornament maker
John son 12                                  do
Rosa daur 10                                  do
(all born Birmingham)

I do not understand how Edward Glover is a brother to William, unless he is a half brother or a brother in law? 


1861
210 Aston Road Birmingham
RG9/2177/102/17
William Ball head mar 38 pearl button maker Staffs Pugeby(may be Rugeley?)
Mariah wife mar 36 Middlesex London
Charles son 15 gun maker b Birmingham
Margaret 9 do
William 7 do
Margaret Ball mother unmar 66 attends to Dron....(?) shop b Shaksl(t)on County NK

So a few inconsistencies between the censuses which will need chasing up. And a few place names that need investigating.

I can't easily see the family in 1871, but I think I found Margaret as a lodger in another household.

[Ruskie]

I see you have signed off before revisiting this thread. 

I will wait for a response from you before continuing to search any further.

[Brummygirl]

Hi

William Ball - Full age - Bachelor - Occupation - Railway Company Guard - Living at Clerkenwell, London - Father - William Ball - Tailor
Married
Maria Perkins - Full age - Spinster - Living at Digbeth, Birmingham - Father - Richard Perkins - Farmer
Witnesses are - William Sutcliffe and Sarah Sutcliffe

Hope this helps
Brummygirl

[down-under]

Hello

If William Ball is a Railway guard on his wedding banns living in London
 father Tailor this could be William and Maria.

1851 H0107/1496 folio 344 Page 50 St Pancras Sommers Town Middlesex

128 Upp Seymour Street

William Ball age 63 Tailor born Hitchen herts
Mary wife age 55 Sheephead Leicestershire
William Ball son age 33 Railway guard London
Maria sons wife age 31 Rushton Northants
William son age 7 Clerkenwell
Mary Ann dau age 2 St Pancras
Edwin Rd son age 3 months St Pancras

Mary Ann dau age 30 City Middlesex
Emily dau age 23 Milliner City
Thomas Oram?son age 18 Clerk  born City
Eliza Jones age 15 servant

Pam