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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 13:55 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Just looking at the ages of Daniel Wright and John born 1812
That would make Daniel 38 years old which is a little old for him
to be just getting married.  Might have been his second wife?
Either a Janet or a Mary might have been correct.
Due to the way the Scottish naming of children goes.

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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 17:27 BST (UK) »
The Dunsmore drowning was my post.  I still don't know the circumstances surrounding that death.

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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 17:43 BST (UK) »
Have you checked this death on SP?

1862 WRIGHT JOHN     Male  at HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

Who were the parents of this John?

What was his address?

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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 21:06 BST (UK) »
Just noticed (not sure if you are aware as you only mention 6 children as per the 1861 census?) that there is another birth listed to a John Wright and Mary Milne after Ann Jane's birth (and after the 1861 census) in Hutchesontown 14 July 1861 ... a Daniel Wright ... in addition to the birth of another Daniel Wright to this couple in 5 Feb 1856 ...

Two sons named Daniel lends weight to John's father as having been a Daniel himself? 



Good grief! More?

Thanks very much!  ;D

The address is correct in both cases, but two sons named Daniel? Would that suggest the first one died prior to the second being born?
Wright, Glasgow
McCabe, Glasgow
Connelly, Glasgow and Cavan
Muirhead, Glasgow and Cavan
McNab and Galbraith, Kintyre


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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 21:13 BST (UK) »
Yes, not unusual to re-use the name if the first born name-holder died. 

Couldn't see Daniel Wright, b. 1861, on 1871 census  ???

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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 21:24 BST (UK) »
I note that Duncan Wright is listed on the 1861 and 1871 census as a Cooper.  Can't see him yet on 1851 census. 

Perhaps this might be him on 1841 census?
Duncan Wright aged aged 15, occ Apprentice Cooper
living in Greenock West with parents Daniel, aged 65, occ Blacksmith, and Janet, aged 60 - both born Renfrewshire, and siblings Janet, Mary and Elisabeth. 

We think we have Duncan's death in 1884 which gives his parents as Daniel and Mary.

Could the Daniel and Janet you refer to be grandparents, given their ages?
Wright, Glasgow
McCabe, Glasgow
Connelly, Glasgow and Cavan
Muirhead, Glasgow and Cavan
McNab and Galbraith, Kintyre

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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 21:26 BST (UK) »
Yes, not unusual to re-use the name if the first born name-holder died. 

Couldn't see Daniel Wright, b. 1861, on 1871 census  ???

Found Daniel, b 1856's death in 1858 aged two.
Wright, Glasgow
McCabe, Glasgow
Connelly, Glasgow and Cavan
Muirhead, Glasgow and Cavan
McNab and Galbraith, Kintyre

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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 21:28 BST (UK) »
Yes, exact relationships between householders was not detailed on 1841 census so the 'parents' bit was my surmise ... so Daniel and Janet could easily be grandparents or Janet, senior, could have been a second wife etc ... and all that is if you take it that it's 'the right' Duncan there.  

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Re: Drowned in the Clyde in 1868
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Just looking at the ages of Daniel Wright and John born 1812
That would make Daniel 38 years old which is a little old for him
to be just getting married.  Might have been his second wife?
Either a Janet or a Mary might have been correct.
Due to the way the Scottish naming of children goes.

regards Sandymc

We did think we could be talking about a second marriage but it's hard to pin it down.

Where did you get Daniel's age at 38? My head is spinning with this stuff.
Wright, Glasgow
McCabe, Glasgow
Connelly, Glasgow and Cavan
Muirhead, Glasgow and Cavan
McNab and Galbraith, Kintyre