For Better or Worse, Convict Lives Shaped by Transportation - JOSEPH TURVEY

[trish1120]

Thanks for the extra info

According to a Tree Joseph Married again 1844 to Hannah Lessimon.
If true she would be the Wife in the Article.

I think you are right and Samuel/Joseph were Cousins as Sam/Elizabeth did not Christen a Joseph that I can find.

Trish

[Jaybeebuzz]

Trish
Thank you so much for all your efforts. It is so very kind of you to spare the time. Yes, I am confused about Joseph's wife too! Where was she in 1841 and yes, she did contact the paper in 1846 to inform them of her husband's letter (I'd have thought that she'd want to keep the fact that her husband was a prisoner a secret, personally!). I wonder if she might have been his second wife?

I did look quickly on the IGI myself but wasn't able to find anything so you've done better than me. I've never got on with the new familysearch layout.

I wonder where Samuel's wife was in 1841 too?  According to the other thread on the Turvey boys http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,306958.0.html Samuel married Margaret Brown 12 Jan 1858 at St Peter's, Hamilton but I haven't verified this. On his transportation record it stated under family life that he was married with 5 children but "single" (in inverted commas!) was noted under marital status! 

The more I find out, the more confused I get!!

Julie

[Jaybeebuzz]

Trish
Our posts crossed. So glad you've found a second wife. That's makes a bit more sense now! When you say "according to a tree" do you mean someone's tree that's been posted online (I'm assuming you don't mean that a tree told you!  ).

Thank you!

Julie

[Dundee]

When you say "according to a tree" do you mean someone's tree that's been posted online (I'm assuming you don't mean that a tree told you!  ).

That is hilarious 

With some of the stuff you see online you would probably be better off talking to a tree!

Links to the original records on Tas Archives might work better for you.

Joseph TURVEY

Indent (Page 1)
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON17-1-2,222,144,L,80

Indent (Page 2)
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON17-1-2,222,145,L,80

The last column says - Wife Mary, Brothers Stephen and Thomas, Sisters Amelia and Susan all living at his Native Place

Having a look at FamilySearch, Joseph was the son of Stephen and Ann TURVEY (spelt TURVY).

Conduct Record
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON33-1-80,230,198,L,80

Samuel TURVEY

Indent (Page 1)
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON17-1-1,386,328,L,80

Indent (Page 2)
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON17-1-1,386,329,L,80

Last Column, Wife Mary Ann is crossed out.  Father Samuel, Brothers John and Edward, Sister Sarah.

Conduct Record
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON33-1-80,230,199,L,80

Samuel applied to marry Margaret DICKSON of the Tory 2 in 1854.  The notation says "Will be approved if Clergy is satisfied 18/11/54
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=5 (page 480)

I don't see this marriage taking place, just the one you already have in 1858.  By then he was free and did not need to apply.

I'm not sure where Joseph thought he was, but the chances of him getting an early pardon were pretty slim and the chances of him earning enough money when he was free to bring the family out were even slimmer.  Convicts usually applied to the Governor to have their families join them at the government's expense, but this was a huge indulgence and you had to be very well behaved.  This time period was also coming to the end of transportation and with lots of free settlers coming in to the country the government wasn't as keen to populate as they were in the early days.

Debra 

[Jaybeebuzz]

Debra

Wow! What can I say?     I am quite overwhelmed by all the info you have given me. Thank you so very much for all those links. It's been nice to see the original images and help piece it all together. I see that Samuel tried to marry another convict in Mary Dickson, an Irish thief convicted in Scotland to 7 years on Van Diemen's Land!

Thanks again to everyone for all their help. I've been researching my tree for 9 years now but am not at all familiar with the Australian records and websites.

Julie