For Better or Worse, Convict Lives Shaped by Transportation - JOSEPH TURVEY

[Jaybeebuzz]

Hi
It's been a while since this book was mentioned and the old thread seems to have gone dead so I thought I would try re-posting in the hope that someone might have a copy.
I am looking for more info on JOSEPH TURVEY of Pershore, WOR who appears in this book. He was sent to Norfolk Island, Australia  13/5/1845 on board the David Malcolm for his part in the murder of a gamekeeper at the Croome Estate near Pershore. It appears to be a very sad story. His youngest son ended up in the workhouse after he was transported. Joseph sent a letter to his wife (an article appeared in the local paper about it) to say that he would send for her and the children just as soon as he could but I don't think he ever did. If anyone does have the book I wonder if they would be kind enough to tell me what it says about Joseph please? I think he died in a pauper institute in Newtown, Aus, in 1884.
Many thanks.
Julie

[Billyblue]

Julie, there is a Newtown in NSW, Vic, Qld x 2, and Tasmania.
Do you know which one is connected with his death?

There's a Joseph TONKIN death 1884 listed at Newtown, NSW.
Do you know his mother's name?

Dawn M

[~MERLIN~]

Joseph died in Tasmania:

TURVEY JOSEPH age 84yrs d. 11/06/1884 HOBART #1697/1884 RGD 35

[~MERLIN~]

Joseph TURVEY - convict files:

http://foundersandsurvivors.org//pubsearch-xsl/image/viewer.html?CON33-1-80,230,198

http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/ai71954

[~MERLIN~]

Possibly his brother? was transported for the same crime.

Samuel TURVEY - convict files:

http://foundersandsurvivors.org//pubsearch-xsl/image/viewer.html?CON33-1-80,230,199

http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/ai71955

[~MERLIN~]

Send a PM to one of our other Aussie RCer's - Margaret.
She has the book you are asking about.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22580

[trish1120]

SAMUEL Turvey Christened 16 Sept 1804, Holy Cross, Pershore, Worcester, England
Parents, SAMUEL/ELIZABETH
(Familysearch.Org)

1841 Census has a Samuel Turvey c 1806, age 35, living in Holy Cross, Ag Lab
With him are;
William 9
John 6
Charles 4
+ Samuel Turvey age 60, Ag Lab
HO107/1206/15/Holy Cross

I can find 1 Christening for a Child of a Joseph;
CHARLES Turvey, Baptised 25 Dec 1825, Holy Cross, Pershore to JOSEPH/MARY
Abode High St, Fathers Occp Labourer
(FreeREG)

Probable Burial for ELIZABETH Turvey age 37 c 1783, 05 June 1820

Trish

[trish1120]

1841 Census
Newland,
Holy Cross, Pershore
HO107/1206/15/Holy Cross
Joseph BURNEY (image is TURVEY), 35, Gardener
Charles, 15, Gardener
George, 10, Gardener
Frederick, 3
All born in County

CHARLES I gave Baptism for earlier.
Burial;
MARY Turvey age 38, 10 July 1839, Holy Cross
Abode Newland
(FreeREG)
(as where Jos/Children are in 1841 Census)

Joseph TURVEY Married Mary Ann PRICE, 03 Aug 1825, Saint Peter, Worcester, Worcester
(F/S.Org)

I am a bit confused here as you have his Wife alive after he was Transported?

[Jaybeebuzz]

My goodness, you're a very quick lot on this board!! I was only really after the excerpt from the book but everything else has been a bonus!

Merlin, many thanks for all your links and Margaret's e mail address. It was she who started a thread going back to 2010 relating to the book. I have contacted her directly to see if she is still offering look up's.

The Tasmanian Archives site was very informative although I don't know if it's my "on its way out" laptop or not but every time I tried to click on an original image it just disappeared from the screen! I did manage to glean a lot of info off the transcripts though so hopefully I haven't missed anything.

I've been through the censuses/IGI to get more info on the family although I still don't actually know if I'm related to Joseph and Samuel or not. The Turveys married into my Tinson tree via William Turvey b. 1868 Pershore (s/o George & Mary) = Emma Jane Tinson. But I've got so engrossed in this story of the manslaughter of the Earl of Coventry's gamekeeper and the Turvey boys' (I think they were cousins, not brothers) subsequent transportation, I'm now not really bothered whether they were related to me or not, I just want to find out what happened, particularly, to Joseph. I will have to subscribe to the British Newspapers online again to get the full stories of what actually happened and the subsequent trial.

Am I right in thinking there won't be any surviving Australian census info available for Joseph after he served his sentence? (although he was given life so maybe he wasn't ever released). The newspaper article in the Worcester Journal of 21 May 1846 though states that in a letter to his wife (her name wasn't given) he said that he was hopeful of a release for good conduct and then he "will easily be able to procure sufficient money to pay for his wife and family's voyage out". I would love to think that the family did go and join him in Australia but I've not found them in any passenger lists so far (it would help if I knew the wife's name!).

I got Joseph's death info from another old post on this board relating to the boys. It matches the 11/6/1884 death you found, Merlin. Thank you.

Once again, thank you all for all your help. It is very much appreciated.

Julie