Marriage and Birth URQUHART/McBRIDE

[Tassie T]

I am seeking some additional information about my great,great,grandmother Elizabeth McBride, nee Urquhart.  Elizabeth came from Gairloch and was in the Greenock area where she was four times tried and convicted of theft and on the fifth occasion she was tried on the 28th April 1846 in Glasgow and transported to Tasmania.  Her records state that she was married to David McBride and had one child.  She spent a period of time in Paisley Prison before she shipped out to Hobart.  David was possibly a sailor and was last seen at Port Phillip (Melbourne, Aust).  Could someone point me in the right direction to find a marriage record for Elizabeth and David and a birth record for their child.  Any additional sources that I could try to find out more about David McBride.  Thanks in advance.

[ev]

Hi ,

Looks like David Urquhart was in the Royal Navy according to the 1846 trial papers(National Archives of Scotland)

This looks promising -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYQN-Q4J (Can't see any children)

ev

Added - the trial papers have her as Elizabeth Urquhart maiden surname Mcbride

[Tassie T]

Hi ev, Thank you for your reply.   The 1841 census has Elizabeth at home in Gairloch with her family so the marriage you noted in 1840 is not that of Elizabeth.  The trial paper you mentioned is possibly Elizabeth.  If these are the trial papers for Elizabeth it would be interesting that David is using her maiden name.  In Tasmania she occasionally used both her married and maiden names for what reason I don't understand.   Am I able to access the trial papers online?  Thanks

[andycand]

Hi

Scottish women often used their maiden name even when married so don't rule out the 1840 marriage. If her husband was in the navy she could quite easily be living at home and be recorded in the 1841 census under her maiden name.

The fact that Scottish women used their maiden names is very useful when looking for christenings and also on Monumental Inscriptions that would say the likes of Jane Reid wife of John McDonald.

Andy

[ev]

The trial papers are not online just access details

http://www.nas.gov.uk/catalogues/default.asp

Click on search the NAS catalogue
Then click on search(top middle)
In the search for box enter - Elizabeth Mcbride Urquhart
That should give you 3 results , click on display catalogue results
Click on AD14/46/411 & JC26/1846/217

ev

Added-
Elizabeth Urquhart, wife of David Urquhart, mariner, Royal Navy, m.s. McBride, Verdict - Guilty, in terms of own confession , Sentence - Transportation - 7 years(Date 28th April 1846)

[ev]

Elizabeth Mcbride convict record -

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON41-1-11,174,82,C,80

ev

Added - I have my doubts about the 1841 Census being the correct one 

[Tassie T]

Hi ev and andycand.  Thank you for your replies and help.  All very helpful information.  The only thing that still confuses me is, why in the access details for her trial papers her husband David is quoted by Elizabeths maiden name.  Could that just be an entry error?   I have viewed the surgeons report for the"Elizabeth and Henry" (Elizabeths transport to Hobart) and there were 169 convict women and 25 children so I think Elizabeth most likely had her child with her.  Unfortunately I can't find a McBride or Urquhart child in the institutions in Hobart where children of convict women were placed.  Many died at the Female Factory as it was called in Hobart and there are no records of those deaths.  I shall start searching for David McBride.  ev, some years ago I was able to view the book containing the CON records in the State Archives in Hobart that you included a link to.  Very impressive documents.  Thanks again for your assistance.