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Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« on: Saturday 22 September 12 20:40 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out info. re. the death of Hope Ruth Routledge in the City Poorhouse.She was six months old when she died there in July 1891.
Is there anyway to know if she had been abandoned,or whether the rest of her family were also"inmates" at the time. Her mother was named Margaret, father John and sister Elizabeth Louise aged five.
I can only find a Census for 1881.
Many thanks,
Mary

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Re: Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 September 12 22:54 BST (UK) »
Ancestry have the transcript for the 1891 census but I cannot see this family.

Do you have any other information on the parents, ages, occupations etc.

If you have found them in 1881 can you please post the full reference .
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Re: Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 September 12 16:12 BST (UK) »
Cant see them for 1891 but 1901 has Elizabeth with her grandmother


Annie Mclean 70
Elizabeth Routledge 15 grand-daughter Confectioner's Assistant
Kate P Bain 23
Fanny R McHougal 27

Address 28 Gardner Street


She then marries 1910 which will confirm if her parents are still living

1910 MUIR JAMES and ROUTLEDGE ELIZABETH LOUIS at ANDERSTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

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Re: Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 September 12 16:22 BST (UK) »
Poorhouse was also a hospital so another possibility is she was in there rather than the poorhouse itself? If her death cert says she died there but usual address was........ then more likely hospital.

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Re: Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 September 12 16:22 BST (UK) »
1891 has a John Routledge occ Ropespinner living in a Lodging House for men

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Re: Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 September 12 16:47 BST (UK) »
Looks like Margaret remarried in 1895 in Bridgeton, Glasgow to an Andrew Williamson but declares herself a spinster rather than a widow.

She definitely married John Routledge

1884   Groom ROUTLEDGE   JOHN   Bride MCLEAN   MARGARET   HUTCHESONTOWN   GLASGOW CITY/LANARK   644/11 0007

My hunch is the kids were living with grandma.

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Re: Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 September 12 17:06 BST (UK) »
1901 shows Margaret living with Andrew Williamson with two sons John 7, Andrew 2 and a baby girl, Jamesina at 20 Lyon St, Cowcaddens

She died in 1915 in Glasgow - both husbands shown on the death cert.

Still not found her on 1891!  :(
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Re: Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 September 12 17:54 BST (UK) »
A possible -

Recorded at 95 Thistle St, Barony, Glasgow as a visitor as Margaret Mclean.


Name                   Age
John Whyte            24 head of house occupation Merchant's clerk
Andrew Whyte    27 Brother Draper's assistant
Mary Whyte            32 Sister Housekeeper
Ada Whyte            21 Sister Draper's Assistant
(All born Glasgow)

Margaret McLean    24 born Inverness-shire which is consistent with the 1901 entry as place of birth. She's shown as a Cook and married.
Louise McLean    6  Visitor (also born Glasgow)

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Re: Glasgow City Poorhouse records
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 17:49 BST (UK) »
Thank  you so much for this info. The sibling was named Elizabeth Louise Routledge.
After Hope's birth they may have left Glasgow. Margaret said that her husband John (a wine merchant) died in Newcastle Upon Tyne in 1892.I just could not trace them on the Scottish 1891 census.
It is possible that Hope was placed in Hospital rather than Poor House as her "usual address" was given as 5 Roslin Place.
Margaret's father was a coachman/butler,so domestic service was no new thing for her!

My grandfather,John McLean was born between her two marriages, in 1893.

Mary