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Archibald.Holland
« on: Saturday 22 September 12 09:30 BST (UK) »
Trying to find birth of Jessie Archibald in 1897. also anything on her parents
Sydney Archibald and Jessie Holland, births deaths or wedding.
jessie A. married in Dumbarton 1916.Both parents deceased?
all were actors,

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Re: Archibald.Holland
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 September 12 14:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Merlin

No guarantee parents were married at the time of Jessie's birth unfortunately. Archibald and Holland could also be variations of parents' actual names too given their acting profession.

From your other postings here www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,602310.0.html, this is the family and husband of Jessie Jnr? www.camichaelfh.ukfamilies.com/mvow/fam/fam9924.html From this info, Jessie died in England which is a pity in that does you cannot reconfirm Jessie's parents' details from a Scottish death cert.

No info is there that she was born in Scotland (or parents) is there? I can see why though you are looking around everywhere given there is nothing to be found so far for her early years  :-\

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Re: Archibald.Holland
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 September 12 15:06 BST (UK) »
No marriage showing for her parents in Scotland

Can't see Sydney on 1901 census either

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Re: Archibald.Holland
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 September 12 16:05 BST (UK) »
Can't see deaths in Scotland either


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Re: Archibald.Holland
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 September 12 16:10 BST (UK) »
A chink of light, but as always, more work and info needed to be found  ::)

Getting nowhere so far on daughter Jessie, however.....

Following on the idea of Sydney Archibald and Jessie Holland may not have been married...there is a parish entry for the christening of a Sydney Holland in South Lambeth All Saints on 29 Jan 1897. The mother of this Sydney shows as a Jessie Holland, no occupation for the mother was included. The address given for this Jessie Holland is the same as that given for another entry above, also for an illegitimate birth (41 Jeffries Road, Lambeth) so maybe this was a place for unmarried mothers to have their babies? Don't know, just guessing.

A leap (of faith?!) to the 1901 census and this entry in Raunds, Northamptonshire (RG13/1454/35/61):

Arthur Adams 24
Ellen Adams 23
Winnifred A Adams 2
Frederick C Adams 1 Month
Frederick S Archbold 42, married, actor b. Shotley; Bridge, Yorkshire
Sydney H Archbold 5, boarder b. London
Robert Wakefield 28, boarder

S middle name maybe Sydney and H middle name maybe Holland...

Frederick shows as married above. Maybe young Jessie is with mother somewhere together?

Monica  :)

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Re: Archibald.Holland
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 September 12 16:15 BST (UK) »
Hi,

SP has the following births for Jessie Archibald 1897.

1897   ARCHIBALD   JESSIE   F   ST CYRUS   /KINCARDINE   
1897   ARCHIBALD   JESSIE   F   OLD OR WEST KILPATRICK/DUNBARTON   
1897   ARCHIBALD   JESSIE   F   COCKPEN   /MIDLOTHIAN


Also 17 births in Scotland between 1890-1900
Sharon   
Fagan/England/Ireland
Aldridge/London
Sills/London/Kent
Hartwell/London
Salkeld/Cumberland/Northumberland
Robinson/London
Stewart/Ireland/Scotland/England

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Re: Archibald.Holland
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 September 12 16:19 BST (UK) »
The England and Wales Death Index has info for Jessie Parker, died 1979 Kettering, Northants and gives her birth date as 7/2/1898.  

I note the second link provided by Monica states Jessie's birthplace is Haworth, West Yorks ... and there is a private tree on A/try (tree named vi163) that gives her birthplace as Hawick, Roxburgh.  

NB: the forename Jessie can be used interchangeably with forenames Janet/Jane/Jean.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?561

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Re: Archibald.Holland
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 September 12 16:23 BST (UK) »

I note the second link provided by Monica states Jessie's birthplace is Haworth, West Yorks ...

Which one is that, Gali  :P Tired head now with looking for them all!

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Re: Archibald.Holland
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 September 12 16:24 BST (UK) »