Henry Risley (1850-1929?) and Family

[BAE]

Henry Risley, a veneer maker, married Elizabeth Orchard Brown in Shoreditch in 1869 and had four children: Henry, 1870, William James, 1872, Etheldra, 1876, and Lily, 1878. The family appears together in 1871 and 1881 census.

I have circumstantial evidence that Elizabeth split from Henry and emigrated to Brooklyn, New York, USA with Edward Arlidge, a ship caulker who also ran a coffee house, and became the parents of my grandmother. 

Elizabeth apparently took her daughters with her to NY, but not her sons.

If anyone has confirming or disputing information regard Henry Risley and his family, I would greatly appreciate it.
BAE

[Valda]

Hi

1891 census RG12 245 folio 112
14 Wenlock? Terrace Shoreditch
Elizabeth Risley 61 Head Widow Island Bridge Ireland
Thomas Risley 30 Son labourer Gosport Hants
William Risley 19 Grandson Labourer Shoreditch
Albert Risley 5 Grandson Stratford Essex

1851 census HO107 1611 folio 759
Brompton Barracks Gillingham Kent
Henry Risley 28 Head Married Gunner Royal Artillery Knutsford Cheshire
Eliza Risley 21 wife Married Island Bridge Dublin
Henry Risley 11 months Gillingham Kent

1871 census RG10 448 folio 11
7 Wenlock Terrace Shoreditch
Henry Risley 49 Head Married Time keeper Meschall? Cheshire
Eliza A Risley 42 Wife Married Dublin Ireland
William Risley 18 Son Jewellers servant Isle of Sheppy Sheerness Kent
John Risley 15 Son Ser at ? Shop Ireland
Thomas Risley 11 Son Port ? Hampshire
Edward Risley 5 Son Woolwich Kent
Albert Risley 3 Son London Middlesex

Possible

1891 census RG12 232 folio 11
6 New Street St Lukes London
Henry Risby 41 Boarder Single Picture Frame Molder Chatham Kent


Regards

Valda

[avm228]

Hi BAE

I know you've already got 1881 for the family, but it might be helpful to set it out:

1881 census: RG11/1703/46/11

5 Livingstone Rd, Stratford, Essex

Henry RISLEY Head Mar 31 Veneer cutter Brompton Kent
Elizabeth do Wife Do 29 Shoreditch Middx
Henry do 11 Shoreditch
Wm J do  9 Son Shoreditch
Theldra do Daur 4 Shoreditch
Lilly do Daur 2 Shoreditch

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Passenger list on Grecian monarch 14.9.1882
Mrs E Arledge 32
Lily 5
Tilly 4
infant 1
In 1895 Lily has married a David Manning born Jul 1872 NY Express driver,children Jennie Sep 1896 and May 1899.
There are suggestions that Elizabeth used the surname Roberts 1900 and Forks 1920 but no supporting evidence.
Tilly married a Hugh Smith 1894 born oct 1865 Scotland switcher,children Anna Dorathy and Emily G 1896 and Edward R 1898.
Both couples lived in Brooklyn NY
1891 census hoxton
Elizabeth Risley 60 Island Bridge Ireland
Thomas 30 son lab Gosport Hants
William g s 19 lab Shoreditch
Albert gs 5 scholar Stratford Essex
William married at St Giles Cripplegate 22.11.1897 Jane elizabeth Barrett age 25 lab 3 Charles St father Henry Risley veneer cutter
and Jane age 27 machinist same address father James Barrett builder.
Can't see son Henry Risely in 1891 and not sure of the name of the baby to look that up.

Ciderdrinker

[BAE]

Thanks all for the responses.  My Henry's father's name was Henry and his wife was born in Ireland--so I'm certain that's a generation off.

But the Mrs Arlidge and 3 children emigrating to USA are likely the family going to NY.  I've traced the Manning family and Smith family and it all seems to tie together.

[BAE]

Valda's information on the 1871 census is new information for me--it expands the number of siblings of Henry although finding additonal information about those siblings has not been productive, nor finding any military records of Henry's father, a gunner in the Royal Artillery, according to 1851 census.

[avm228]

Valda's information on the 1871 census is new information for me--it expands the number of siblings of Henry although finding additonal information about those siblings has not been productive, nor finding any military records of Henry's father, a gunner in the Royal Artillery, according to 1851 census.

The Royal Artillery service record of Henry Risley, b abt 1822 in Mere nr Knutsford, Cheshire, is available on the pay site Findmypast.

www.findmypast.co.uk

Also there is the Great Budworth parish register, together with the Cheshire Bishop's Transcript thereof, showing the 3 March 1822 baptism of Henry Risley, son of James (a keeper) and Rachel, of Mere.

[shellyesq]

The death index at www.italiangen.org has an Emily Arlidge, age 1, who died 16 Jun. 1883 in Kings County (which is Brooklyn).  I thought she might be the infant on the passenger list.

There is a birth record for Emily Arlige, daughter of Edward Arlige & Elizabeth Brown, here:  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FD5Q-FYW  She was born about 2 months after the other Emily's death, so maybe they reused the name of the daughter they lost?  That seemed to be a more common practice back then.

[BAE]

Thankyou Shellyesq for that intriguing suggestion.  That would explain why I have been unable to find anything definite about Emma.   However, I do have a 1892 census that lists all of the sisters indicating that Emma was still alive in 1892.  It is available at familysearchorg at: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11673-129868-48?cc=1529100&wc=10936431

Another question that I have been unable to solve is that on the four columns of the census, Edward and Elizabeth Roberts are on the bottom of column two and the three sisters (listed as Roberts) are on the top of column three, but my grandmother, Emily Roberts (Arlidge) is listed midway down on column four seemingly not apart of the other Roberts.  By 1892, it is my understanding that Arlidge had died, Elizabeth Orchard Brown remarried Edward Roberts, and the children all took the Roberts name. 
BAE