EJ Fisher place of Birth

[bdf]

Hi
I am trying to research my late husbands grandfather Edward John Fisher
This is proving very difficult as I can't find where he was born.
He was married in Northampton in 1916, same address as the Bride,   occupation Soldier. aged 33 father Fred Fisher.
On the birth certificate of his first child in 1916, same address occupation
Soldier (Corporal) Middlesex Regiment (Bricklayer Journeyman)
I have tried al obvious ways to trace his possible birth BMDs Census etc but
nothing adds up. I really need to find his birth to confirm anything, any advice gratefully received.

[PaulineJ]

aged 33y at 1916 makes him b 1882/1883 or so.

What names witness the marriage?

[bdf]

Hi Pauline

Her sister Ada Clarke and Robert Branton

Barbara

[DORAN54]

hi, was his father deceased on the marriage cert

if his mothers name was sarah then a possible from the 1911 census which you can view free at the moment on an***try is he was born sussex

[PaulineJ]

Only a possible.
Edward John Fisher   Jul-Aug-Sep 1882   Eastbourne   Sussex

1891 cemsus
RG12/773; Folio: 123; Page: 73
Fred Fisher   37
Sarah Fisher   35
John Fisher   8
Daisy Fisher   7
Ernest Fisher   4
Arthur Fisher   3
Marion Fisher   8/12

1901
RG13; Piece: 883; Folio: 68; Page: 27
Fred Fisher   47  Bricklayer
Sarah Fisher   45  Northamptonshire
Ernest Fisher   14
Arthur Fisher   13
Marion Fisher   10
Fred Fisher   7
Arthur Fisher   33

I think edward might be doing porridge in 1901 (@ipswich)

I'm pretty sure that by 1911 Sarah , sons John and Arthur are in Camberwell.
                (good place to enlist in Middx regiment)

[bdf]

I followed this route and until recently was almost convinced I had found him.

However I found a death in Eastbourne in 1962 of a Edward John Fisher aged 79 (which agrees with his age given on marriage) I sent for the certificate and the informant is a P Martin (Daughter).
There were only two children that I know of Edward Paul Raymond born 1917 Northampton ( my late father in law ) and Margaret born 1920 Northampton.
Do you have any opinion or advice on what I can do now?

many thanks
Barbara

[Yorkslass]

Hi Barbara,

FindMyPast have an Army Record for an Edward Fisher (no John ...) born 1880 in Westminster London, occupation is builders labourer.
He's attesting in 1899 with the Middlesex Regiment.

Unfortunately, no parents or next of kin given, but he gives his address as 23 Vincent Street, Vincent Square, Westminster.  His last employer was a Mr Garner of Vauxhall Bridge Road

The only other information is that he had a ring tattooed on the back of his left hand, and that hand had a slight deformity which did not impair its use.

I've looked at the 1901 census for the Westminster address, but no Fisher family living there.

Yorkslass

[carol8353]

There is a medal card for an Edward J Fisher who served with the Middlesex regiment- his service number is G/51382

What actual address does he give on his marriage cert and does it definitley give him as single at the time?

Wondering if Phyllis might be a child from the first marriage or possibly adopted?

See this thread too...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=617579.msg4662872#msg4662872

Carol

[bdf]

Hi Carol

Address at time of marriage was 58 Essex St Northampton, which is where the brides family lived and yes he is single. The family rumour was that after his daughter was born in 1920 he disappeared and joined the foreign legion,
unlikely I think. I married into the Fisher family in 1968 and I don't ever remember my Father in Law (his son) ever talking about his father, and when my father in law registered his mothers death in 1974, he put on the certificate that she was a widow " of a soldier " unusual don't you think.

Any thoughts

Regards

Barbara