mcgreal

[stacey2411]

hi im new to this site so just hoping someone can help....

Iv started researching my mcgreal family tree and am now at the point where it comes to ireland and im getting a bit stuck....

My grandfather was timothy mcgreal born 1908 liverpool timothys father was john joseps mcgreal born 1858 mayo but came to liverpool sometime before 1881.
I have a little information about john joseph he was a cattle doctor on the ships.He married in 1889 in liverpool to a lady called mary catherine coughlin, they had 13 children.
The name of his father was recorded as being jacobi ?? now this is where i am stuck as i cant find any records for a jacobi i know that when they were in ireland the surname spelling was slightly different.
how do i find the birthplace of john joseph 1858 as im a bit unsure of what areas of mayo to look for now im sure westport has come up somewhere but im not entiley sure.
if i can find birth records for john joseph 1858 i might be able to work out jacobis details!!! any help would be appreciated thanks for reading 

[gortonboy]

hi,,i suspect Jacobi to be the Latin for James. Many baptism and marriages are recorded in Latin,and the Latin name is entered.

[gortonboy]

some examples

Carolus: Charles
Demetrius: Jeremiah, Jerome, Dermot, Darby
Eugenius: Owen, Eugene
Gulielmus: William
Hannah: Anne
Honoria: Hannah, Nora
Ioannes: John
Jacobus: James
Joannes: John
Joanna: Jane, Joan
Nigelus: Niall, Neil
Thaddeus: Timothy

[stacey2411]

just looking through the many notes i have and westport is definately where the family came from!! also iv found a note regarding john james 1858 christening the christening was sponcered by a john mcgreal and a catherine mally pesided by m mchale cc

so thats left me more confused as marriage records state johns father been jacobi!!!

[heywood]

Hi Stacey and welcome to Rootschat 

Have I got the right man?

1891 - John McGreal born 1867 Westport with wife Mary C.

regards
heywood

[heywood]

just looking through the many notes i have and westport is definately where the family came from!! also iv found a note regarding john james 1858 christening the christening was sponcered by a john mcgreal and a catherine mally pesided by m mchale cc

so thats left me more confused as marriage records state johns father been jacobi!!!

Do you mean John Joseph's christening. The sponsor, John McGreal is the godparent - not the father.

Where do you have the baptism record from and do you have John Joseph in 1881 in Liverpool?

[stacey2411]

hi again
my john joseph was born in 1585, and i recieved a small amount of info from a man who had a branch of my family tree he knew nothing more than what iv told you about the christening so no i dont know where this info comes from iv tried looking for westport births but have had no luck!! so the sponcers are the god parents??

[stacey2411]

hi again,
yes i think iv got john james and family in uk in 1881!! if jacobi is a james i have the another lead!! james mcgreal 1837 born?? maried mary?? 1839 he is listed as being a farm labourer and she a seamstress...

[heywood]

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/  has the marriage in 1889

John McGreil and Mary Catherine Coughlin

You can get the reference from there and send for the marriage certificate

1891 has the couple I mentioned  John born 1867, wife Mary C and baby daughter Catherine.

Do you have any other children's names besides Timothy to check the family?

Did the man give you John J's year of birth?

Just read your recent post- is he John Joseph (as in your first) or John James as your last posts?